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This game needs a random dungeon finder.

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neillien
01.06.2012 , 09:42 PM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by Excedrin View Post
No, the random part is what leads to some guy who wants to spam force lightning and nothing else because he thinks Palpatine was super cool getting paired with people who take gaming maybe a little too seriously. It leads to both of them being pissed as hell and causing heartbreak and anger because they were both clearly looking for a different type of player but got stuck with someone completely different.

That's the real reason RDF made people rage out when it came to WoW. It will happen regardless of if it is cross server or if it is restricted to the same server. When you have thinking people involved, the problem never occurs because both types of players know they don't want to play with the other.
Honestly, I would rather take my chances at getting a good random group than spamming or watching a channel for 30mins+. So how about they implement it for those who want it, and those who don't just don't need to use the tool and stick to their channels or friends/guilds lists?

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imtrick
01.06.2012 , 09:44 PM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by neillien View Post
Honestly, I would rather take my chances at getting a good random group than spamming or watching a channel for 30mins+. So how about they implement it for those who want it, and those who don't just don't need to use the tool and stick to their channels or friends/guilds lists?
The problem, of course, is that the damage that can be done by stuff like this will be done regardless of whether or not one of those people chooses to use it, so it's not any kind of real compromise.

Then again, I think the current system's fine. Every time I've wanted to do a flashpoint I just marked myself as looking for a group and watched chat. I don't think it's ever taken me more than 10 minutes to find one. I really have to wonder if these people complaining that it takes too long are even using what's available now.

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Nitewolfe
01.06.2012 , 09:45 PM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by sithplayeronly View Post
Well, I don't know about level 50, but I'm in the process of trying to level up and I can't do the flash points. I'm always busy out of the fleet (where the heck do people congregate in this game anyway?) My experience with the flash points beyond hammer station is non-existent. I have done absolutely none because the players have become sparse and it is difficult to find anyone looking to do the flash points.

I think a dungeon finder is an absolutely essential part of an MMO. See for example DC Universe Online. That game has a decent dungeon finder. Diablo 2, the grand-daddy, you would just make games and wait for it to fill up (which always took like 10 seconds, despite players having to manually search... consider that for popularity guys)... WOW has a great one, but before that, you could enter a LFG channel and pick people up from that. That sucked though. I'm sorry but LFG is currently hard and its depriving me of what I enjoy most about MMOs. I will not be able to enjoy this game at level 50 without flash point grouping, so please, improve this situation.
100% agree with you! I lfd is badly needed here.
Free us from having to spam chat and stand around in one zone all day! Let us que up and go quest instead!

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Daganox
01.06.2012 , 09:45 PM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by neillien View Post
Honestly, I would rather take my chances at getting a good random group than spamming or watching a channel for 30mins+. So how about they implement it for those who want it, and those who don't just don't need to use the tool and stick to their channels or friends/guilds lists?
Its like others said, it would need to follow the excellent example of DDO's. It allows grouping AND allows you to pick who you want in the group. This is acceptable.

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Hautaaja
01.06.2012 , 09:46 PM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by neillien View Post
Honestly, I would rather take my chances at getting a good random group than spamming or watching a channel for 30mins+. So how about they implement it for those who want it, and those who don't just don't need to use the tool and stick to their channels or friends/guilds lists?
This this this. I'm sick and tired of logging in, trying to find a group for who knows how long only to be disappointed. Most of the flashpoints I've been in are easy enough to complete with a random group, at this point I don't give a crap who I'm playing with I just want to play the game. The server populations seem extremely small, I played WoW from korean beta(pre west release) to WotLK and never had to deal with this crap of searching for hours without finding a group.

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Daganox
01.06.2012 , 09:48 PM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by Hautaaja View Post
This this this. I'm sick and tired of logging in, trying to find a group for who knows how long only to be disappointed. Most of the flashpoints I've been in are easy enough to complete with a random group, at this point I don't give a crap who I'm playing with I just want to play the game. The server populations seem extremely small, I played WoW from korean beta(pre west release) to WotLK and never had to deal with this crap of searching for hours without finding a group.
Well also there was that whole "15 million" players thing going for wow. I, fortunately, was never one of them. Just dont like cartoons.

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Excedrin
01.06.2012 , 09:48 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by neillien View Post
Honestly, I would rather take my chances at getting a good random group than spamming or watching a channel for 30mins+. So how about they implement it for those who want it, and those who don't just don't need to use the tool and stick to their channels or friends/guilds lists?
When I log in at this point I usually get at least one whisper within the first hour of just being online (not even searching for a group) asking me to do something - PvP, flashpoints, whatever. I can get a group faster than that if I actually try. Wanna know why?

Because every time I grouped up with people in a Heroic 4 quest, every time I did a flashpoint, every time I did anything at all involving other people I tried to be nice, cracked jokes, played well and told them to ask me to do stuff with them if they wanted! I did that through out my entire time leveling, and I am now reaping the benefit of it. It's not hard to do, and when you do it you're making the game more enjoyable for everyone else playing as well.

Someone else said it best earlier in the thread. MMOs are social games. If you're not willing to be social with some people then things are going to be harder to accomplish. This is the way it should be.
Alone is the default state of an MMO player, whether if be for minutes (or) months, and the game should embrace that. But making a massively single player game isn’t the answer.

-Damion Schubert

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Daganox
01.06.2012 , 09:51 PM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by Excedrin View Post
When I log in at this point I usually get at least one whisper within the first hour of just being online (not even searching for a group) asking me to do something - PvP, flashpoints, whatever. I can get a group faster than that if I actually try. Wanna know why?

Because every time I grouped up with people in a Heroic 4 quest, every time I did a flashpoint, every time I did anything at all involving other people I tried to be nice, cracked jokes, played well and told them to ask me to do stuff with them if they wanted! I did that through out my entire time leveling, and I am now reaping the benefit of it. It's not hard to do, and when you do it you're making the game more enjoyable for everyone else playing as well.

Someone else said it best earlier in the thread. MMOs are social games. If you're not willing to be social with some people then things are going to be harder to accomplish. This is the way it should be.
Amen. I have even joined random invitations for heroics that I had allready done... just to be social. Like I said, with my attitude, I have no problem finding friends or groups to play in.

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imtrick
01.06.2012 , 09:51 PM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by Excedrin View Post
Someone else said it best earlier in the thread. MMOs are social games. If you're not willing to be social with some people then things are going to be harder to accomplish. This is the way it should be.
As much as that may sound harsh, I couldn't agree more (and I'm not even a particularly social person). This is why other MMOs without LFD systems have had better communities than the ones that have them: an LFD system removes the rewards for being social.

I don't think people realize, or just don't care, but this is the reason people are always saying "LFD tools destroy community." They take away the incentive to improve it.

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Hautaaja
01.06.2012 , 09:51 PM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by Daganox View Post
Well also there was that whole "15 million" players thing going for wow. I, fortunately, was never one of them. Just dont like cartoons.
WoW didn't start with 15 million players. WoW was extremely bare compared to this game when it was released. Even so, it had a vibrant player base from the start and you never felt alone. It kept growing and growing as people found the game to be good and introduced it to their friends. Want to do wailing caverns? "LFG Wailing caverns" "Randomdude whispers: I'm in." 30mins later you were clearing the content.