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Sith Emperor vs Darth Sidious


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Lord_Butcher
01.06.2012 , 09:22 AM | #1
Who's most powerfull of these and which one was most successfull, and which one could be the most evil?

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Wolfninjajedi
01.06.2012 , 09:39 AM | #2
Seeing as Sidious in fact took over the galaxy, where every other sith had failed i'd say he is the best out of all of them. Not even gonna mention in several sources, he IS the most powerful sith lord ever.....oh wait!
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darth_freefall
01.06.2012 , 09:46 AM | #3
Sidious hands down

The rule of 2 means that the apprentice kills the master, so each generation becomes stronger.

That went on for over 900 years.

It is stated that sidious is the most powerful sith of all time when yoda faces off with him in RoTS

The sith emperor has nothing on him, it just falls down to people being impressed with all the cool stuff that people in kotor1/2 and tor can do. but that is only coz the original movies were made in the 1970s they didnt have the technology to show off force powers back then.

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Mechavomit
01.06.2012 , 09:51 AM | #4
Sidious is considered the most powerful Sith to ever live.
But seing how the Emperor could literally move planets with the Force, suck all life, including all sound and color, from an area and with people going insane from simply looking at him, I'm starting to doubt it.

Sidious was the smartest Sith out there, that's for sure =)

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Vurdikt
01.06.2012 , 09:52 AM | #5
I think the Sith Emperor is probably more powerful in the force, if not in intellect or cunning. As for the above poster who mentions that Palpatine was the only Sith thhe conquer the galaxy, you may be wrong. We don't actually know yet. If you think back to Episode III, there are some lines that make me think otherwise. In the scene where Mace Windu attempts to arrest Palpatine, Windu says something along the lines of "the oppression of the Sith will never return!" Also, Palpatine says to the newly dubbed Darth Vader "ONCE AGAIN, the Sith will rule the galaxy." This obviously suggests that the Sith conquered the entire galaxy at some point previously to Episode III, and there isn't currently any established period in the lore where this has happened. Also, the culture, military and titles/ranks of Palpatine's empire is very similar to the Empire in the Old Republic, suggesting that Palpatine is modeling the Empire after the Empire in the Old Republic. Why would he do that unless he deeply admired it. All of this information combined seems to leave open the possibility, if not outright infers that the Empire will win the war in the Old Republic, and at least temporarily conquer the Republic outright. Truthfully though, it's impossible for anyone to know. We will have to see what happens in the story. Also, I don't recall Palpatine ever draining the life of over 100 Sith Lords simultaneously while completely stripping an entire planet of the force like the Sith Emperor (Vitiate) did on Nathema. Food for thought. The Sith emperor is no joke.

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Rhyltran
01.06.2012 , 10:11 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Vurdikt View Post
I think the Sith Emperor is probably more powerful in the force, if not in intellect or cunning. As for the above poster who mentions that Palpatine was the only Sith thhe conquer the galaxy, you may be wrong. We don't actually know yet. If you think back to Episode III, there are some lines that make me think otherwise. In the scene where Mace Windu attempts to arrest Palpatine, Windu says something along the lines of "the oppression of the Sith will never return!" Also, Palpatine says to the newly dubbed Darth Vader "ONCE AGAIN, the Sith will rule the galaxy." This obviously suggests that the Sith conquered the entire galaxy at some point previously to Episode III, and there isn't currently any established period in the lore where this has happened. Also, the culture, military and titles/ranks of Palpatine's empire is very similar to the Empire in the Old Republic, suggesting that Palpatine is modeling the Empire after the Empire in the Old Republic. Why would he do that unless he deeply admired it. All of this information combined seems to leave open the possibility, if not outright infers that the Empire will win the war in the Old Republic, and at least temporarily conquer the Republic outright. Truthfully though, it's impossible for anyone to know. We will have to see what happens in the story. Also, I don't recall Palpatine ever draining the life of over 100 Sith Lords simultaneously while completely stripping an entire planet of the force like the Sith Emperor (Vitiate) did on Nathema. Food for thought. The Sith emperor is no joke.
Instead Sidious was draining the life of billions of people at once in order to strengthen himself with their life force. He also had the power to destroy multiple Dark Side users and Jedi at once with a single burst of force lightning. Switch bodies via essence transfer. Mind wipe BILLIONS of people at once. Destroy entire starfleets and potentially planets with wormholes. Warp others to his location. Battle meditation and so much more. He also mastered all but one of the lightsaber styles and was coined to being able to move faster than the eye can see in his younger clone body. Sidious is no joke either.

Let's not forget that Vitiate also needs artifacts to enhance his power to do the things he can do. Sidious doesn't use artifacts. Sidious has nothing amplifying his abilities. It's all him.

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OddballEasyEight
01.06.2012 , 01:27 PM | #7
Sidius was the strongest in the way that he was the smartest and most clever one.

If both had existed at the same time, im certain that sidious would have had a very devious (and long) plot to overthrow the emperor.
Maby he would even have taken over the republic and then recruited siths into fighting the sith who were loyal to the emperor?

who knows, but either way, sidius was the strongest overall.
But the emperor is definately stronger in the use of the force.

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Lord_Butcher
01.06.2012 , 02:55 PM | #8
One could argue that because of his immortal life span, and because he had already lived for over 1000 years, the Sith Emperor could possibly grow powerfull over all this time and in fact being stronger, all those years would allow practise over the Dark Side in all it's aspects and in fact increasing his potentional to exeptional levels, possibly dwarfing Sidious in 1 vs 1 in force at least.

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Rohanshot
01.06.2012 , 07:15 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Lord_Butcher View Post
One could argue that because of his immortal life span, and because he had already lived for over 1000 years, the Sith Emperor could possibly grow powerfull over all this time and in fact being stronger, all those years would allow practise over the Dark Side in all it's aspects and in fact increasing his potentional to exeptional levels, possibly dwarfing Sidious in 1 vs 1 in force at least.
Its kind of like Galbatorix in Eragon. Years of being immortal allows you to slowly amass power to almost godlike ever transsentient levels!
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Rhyltran
01.06.2012 , 07:24 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by OddballEasyEight View Post
Sidius was the strongest in the way that he was the smartest and most clever one.

If both had existed at the same time, im certain that sidious would have had a very devious (and long) plot to overthrow the emperor.
Maby he would even have taken over the republic and then recruited siths into fighting the sith who were loyal to the emperor?

who knows, but either way, sidius was the strongest overall.
But the emperor is definately stronger in the use of the force.
How so? He uses trinkets to accomplish his feats whereas Sidious was capable of destroying planets with his power alone. How is the Emperor stronger in the forcE?

As for Butchex.

Being immortal doesn't make one stronger. Set Harth managed to live for 400 years but he was never particularly powerful. Quite the contrary. He was very "mediocre." in terms of power.

Don't forget that Sidious was much much more powerful than Yoda who lived to be 900 years old.