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Please allow dual spec or cap respec costs.

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baskynn
01.05.2012 , 11:03 PM | #461
Quote: Originally Posted by Guarrand View Post
Actually.. Dual Spec is so wrong....
Feels like cheating to me.
Or more like spoiling people who cant choose and want everything easy.

If you want to tank... roll a tank.
If you want to healer ... roll a healer.
etc..
Whats wrong with creating 3 chars?...

And if you dont want to roll 3 chars... then you have to pay for the privilege of not having to level up 2-3 chars.

Sounds normal to me.

Being able to create 1 char that can fill 3 rolls on the fly is not only "to easy" ... its also just plain unrealistic (yes.. i said it.. unrealistic in a fantasy game!!)

But hey.. it'll probably be implemented cause there are more people wanting easy-play then there are people that want a challenge


it's not easy it's more convenient. I can't stand people like you who don't want it because they don't want other people to switch between two specs. If you don't like it, don't use it, simple.

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zoofar
01.06.2012 , 05:34 AM | #462
Imo dual speccing is not needed. It would be more convinient yes but so would being able to change your whole class at will. It's a question of where to draw the line between what is convinient and what is defining for the game as a whole. Thus it's not a matter of right or wrong but as usual a matter of personal opinion.

Imo:
Reset skill tree cost every week (as I think is already in, but can't confirm for sure)
Switch AC: No.

Sometimes part of the problem here seems to be people don't think a FP (or Ops for that) can be done if you don't have the exact and only right spec for tank, heal etc. Well I think that's wrong. I'm willing to bet almost all - if not all - content can be done with great variation in setup. The need for dual spec is not that great.

The need is basically just wanting for some "universal" class
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DarthKhaos
01.06.2012 , 06:39 AM | #463
I have a lvl 31 Bounty Hunter Tank. I don't need to respec to do decent dmg while questing or even dpsing a flashppoint. I almost completed my Legacy solo at level 30 instead of 33 like the quest level says. Hmm... Perhaps you have an interface controller error.

Look into that.
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AndiusTheGreat
01.06.2012 , 11:45 AM | #464
Quote: Originally Posted by zoofar View Post
Imo dual speccing is not needed. It would be more convinient yes but so would being able to change your whole class at will. It's a question of where to draw the line between what is convinient and what is defining for the game as a whole. Thus it's not a matter of right or wrong but as usual a matter of personal opinion.

Imo:
Reset skill tree cost every week (as I think is already in, but can't confirm for sure)
Switch AC: No.

Sometimes part of the problem here seems to be people don't think a FP (or Ops for that) can be done if you don't have the exact and only right spec for tank, heal etc. Well I think that's wrong. I'm willing to bet almost all - if not all - content can be done with great variation in setup. The need for dual spec is not that great.

The need is basically just wanting for some "universal" class
I'm fairly sure most of the people who want dual specs, and I know for sure that I am not talking about switching ACs. I consider ACs to be separate classes. The people arguing for that simply don't understand the concept of what ACs are in this game.

My problem is with 4 man groups for flashpoints if you want to run flashpoints at your level there are only one good group combinations and two that can work at all. The only good combination for a group is 2 DPS, 1 healer, 1 tank. You can make 2 Healers, 1 DPS, 1 tank work if you need to but it is not preferable. 2 tanks simply will not work in any circumstance, I did it once, the healer did not have enough force to continue healing us the whole battle because mobs were not going down fast enough.

So you need prettymuch EXACT numbers of each role to make parties work. The problem is people don't seem to spec 25% tanks 25% healers and 50% DPS. Most jedi shadows I have seen go DPS. Many of the vanguards do too. There are not that many guardians in general but some of them go DPS as well, though they are the most likely to be a tank.

Because of this it takes FOREVER to find tanks. If you roll a tank, and they find another tank you instantly are not welcome in the group. If you roll something other than a tank and you can't find a tank your party is screwed.

"Rolling an alt" does not solve the problem when you're not talking level 50 raids but a level 17, 29 or 37 flashpoint because your alt and main won't be the same level until 50 most likely.

This game isn't just for powerlevelers. In fact this is one of the worst MMO's going for powerlevelers. So give us something to work with at 1-50 so we can actually do our flashpoints. Making a more simple system of switching between trees in your own class will make it so we don't need 25% tank specced. We just need 25% in a tank capable AC which I am pretty sure we do.
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DarthKhaos
01.06.2012 , 11:50 AM | #465
Quote: Originally Posted by AndiusTheGreat View Post
2 tanks simply will not work in any circumstance, I did it once, the healer did not have enough force to continue healing us the whole battle because mobs were not going down fast enough.
Disagree. One tank just need to turn off his/her threat thingie and act as dps. I've done it many times and I turn it on if da $h1t hits da fan and I just gotta pull some agro to ensure success.
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Heromuncher
01.06.2012 , 11:52 AM | #466
I feel like duel spec is very unnecessary just pay for a respec. I was not a fan of it WOW because it sort of devalued the importance of picking a primary spec. Characters become less unique if a person can have two completely different builds simultaneously.

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Penguinbreeder
01.06.2012 , 11:57 AM | #467
I just canceled because there are no respecs or multiple roles available. One spec with outrageous respec costs in an MMO in 2012? Someone hasn't done their homework.

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Sheneria
01.06.2012 , 12:37 PM | #468
dual spec is not needed.

you can already respec on the fleet or at the capital world.

what you guys want is another instant awesome button of easiness
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Yestreen
01.06.2012 , 12:38 PM | #469
i want to heal AND dps but I have a real life. Dual spec is perfect for me.

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Lethality
01.06.2012 , 01:45 PM | #470
Quote: Originally Posted by Yestreen View Post
i want to heal AND dps but I have a real life. Dual spec is perfect for me.
You know you can already change your spec now, right? I don't think it interferes with your "life" at all.

Why is dual spec that much more important?
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