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Please allow dual spec or cap respec costs.

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Halacs
01.05.2012 , 06:15 PM | #451
Dual spec within the AC please.
Proper Dual spec please.
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Tripiam
01.05.2012 , 06:45 PM | #452
It seems absolutely ridiculous that there is no cap currently for this in the game. My next respec is going to cost me over 100k and I respec'd a few times to pvp and try new specs.

If this doesn't get fixed I can guarantee you will have an enormous amount of very irritated players not wanting to be forced in to leveling another character solely to play a different role.

You're a company - you're in this for the money. You want players to play and keep playing , create things in their favor. A niche market has very limited funds and if you're catering to those that believe "NO WAY IF YOU DONT WANNA TANK GO REROLL" You need to do some re-working in your marketing dept. before you do anything else.

TL;DR - Add a dual spec and/or Respec cost cap or you will lose business.

/thread.

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Griminal
01.05.2012 , 06:59 PM | #453
Quote: Originally Posted by Kemosobe View Post
Then why would you want those people to tank/heal for you when they obviously don't have a clue how to do it since they don't do it?

Would you like someone to drive your children's school bus simply because he can drive a car and drove a school bus once 10 years ago?
Are you actually serious with this argument? The absurdity of people truly amazes me. You are comparing a simple role in a video game to an activity that can cause potential death to many individuals involved? Are you serious?

So you're telling me someone who chooses to not go through the pain of leveling as a healer or tank automatically doesn't know how to play a tank or healer? I hope you realize I leveled as a dps and switched roles via respec to tank and I knew what I was doing and completed every flashpoint and many heroics flawlessly.

There is literally no good argument against dual spec, just pretentious people with outdated thinking. Right now, in the game, I can change my spec anytime I want to. Dual spec does nothing but makes FILLING ROLES, in a game that is ENTIRELY DESIGNED AROUND FILLING ROLES VIA GROUP PLAY MORE CONVENIENT.

I hate to **** on people but I can only come to the assumption that you have to be a complete moron to actually be against dual spec.

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kobrah
01.05.2012 , 07:01 PM | #454
honestly, what is the point of CHOOSING A CLASS / SPEC at the start and 10th level of the game if you don't want to play that class? christ. if you want to roll a healer, then roll a healer. if u want to roll a dps, then roll a dps. this is a MMORPG....the RPG standing for roll playing game.

i picked a healer to start with because i wanted to be a healer. if i want to be a dps, i will then make a dps and switch between characters accordingly to what i want to persue. that is what these games are and why they allow the ability to make multiple characters per server.

this is why there is a respec option. this costs funds. if u want to change the way your character is, then u have to pay a penalty for it. if u decided to respec 40 times then u are an idiot.
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Griminal
01.05.2012 , 07:06 PM | #455
Quote: Originally Posted by kobrah View Post
honestly, what is the point of CHOOSING A CLASS / SPEC at the start and 10th level of the game if you don't want to play that class? christ. if you want to roll a healer, then roll a healer. if u want to roll a dps, then roll a dps. this is a MMORPG....the RPG standing for roll playing game.

i picked a healer to start with because i wanted to be a healer. if i want to be a dps, i will then make a dps and switch between characters accordingly to what i want to persue. that is what these games are and why they allow the ability to make multiple characters per server.

this is why there is a respec option. this costs funds. if u want to change the way your character is, then u have to pay a penalty for it. if u decided to respec 40 times then u are an idiot.
Have you not read a single post in this entire thread? People don't enjoy sitting in general for 2 hours going LF1M TANK, LF1M HEALER. It's also painfully slow to level as a tank or healer compared to dps. People want to PLAY THE GAME. HELLOOOOOO. PLAAAAAAAAY TTTHHHHHHHE GAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMME. Why is this such a hard concept for people to understand? Sitting in general looking for a healer or tank isn't playing the game. It's simply annoying.

Also, the penalty for dual spec is the exact same as it is now for respecing. A LARGE FEE. No difference. The only difference between dual spec and what is in place now is convenience. That is it. Nothing else.

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Halacs
01.05.2012 , 07:16 PM | #456
Quote: Originally Posted by kobrah View Post
honestly, what is the point of CHOOSING A CLASS / SPEC at the start and 10th level of the game if you don't want to play that class? christ. if you want to roll a healer, then roll a healer. if u want to roll a dps, then roll a dps. this is a MMORPG....the RPG standing for roll playing game.

i picked a healer to start with because i wanted to be a healer. if i want to be a dps, i will then make a dps and switch between characters accordingly to what i want to persue. that is what these games are and why they allow the ability to make multiple characters per server.

this is why there is a respec option. this costs funds. if u want to change the way your character is, then u have to pay a penalty for it. if u decided to respec 40 times then u are an idiot.
So if I want to play a Sage in every combination I should have to make six alts or spend a lot of credits over the years on two alts to get all six possible play styles.....

The ability to change spec is already in the game. If they never wanted it then it should not exist in any fashion. You claim the level 10 choice is huge, but that is for your AC. You can still swap out spec within that at a cost. Dual spec is coming, like it or not.

Dual spec within the AC please.
Proper Dual spec please.
Free flying space combat
Cross server PVP, OP's, & FP's
Fix Ability Delay/misfire

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AndiusTheGreat
01.05.2012 , 07:39 PM | #457
Quote: Originally Posted by Griminal View Post
Also, the penalty for dual spec is the exact same as it is now for respecing. A LARGE FEE. No difference. The only difference between dual spec and what is in place now is convenience. That is it. Nothing else.
That and as it stands the easiest point in the game to respec is once you reach max level. At max level you should be rolling in enough credits to pay for the switches.

But at max level is where you actually can have alts take over different roles and play on the alt the party needs. At max level is when you are probably happy with your current traits and don't need to experiment around as much with different builds.

So max level is the easiest place to change specs. Its also the place where it is least needed. (And no the "Max level is where the raids are!!!" argument doesn't cut it. Flashpoints give people just as much if not more reason to respec than raids do.)

Dual specs solve this. If there isn't dual spec (And it sounds like they have already confirmed there will be) they at least need to make it drastically cheaper for low level characters to respec than high level ones. Also the fee shouldn't go up the more times you do it.
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zoofar
01.05.2012 , 07:57 PM | #458
I don't think anyone will be reading this since almost everyone on these forums are more intrested in posting their bs than reading other peoples bs...but maybe it helps someone...here it goes:

I. THINK. RESPEC. COST. RESETS. ONCE. EVERY. WEEK.


i might be wrong, but I don't think so. Worth a test?
Peace

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AndiusTheGreat
01.05.2012 , 09:22 PM | #459
Quote: Originally Posted by zoofar View Post
I don't think anyone will be reading this since almost everyone on these forums are more intrested in posting their bs than reading other peoples bs...but maybe it helps someone...here it goes:

I. THINK. RESPEC. COST. RESETS. ONCE. EVERY. WEEK.


i might be wrong, but I don't think so. Worth a test?
I know it knocks it back down at least one notch every week but I'm not sure if it will take you from 100k credits to 0 credits as soon as a week is up.
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RamataKahn
01.05.2012 , 09:25 PM | #460
Dual specing is needed and should be free.