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JHoltJHolt
01.05.2012 , 01:15 PM | #61
How do you acquire a bag in pvp warzone?

And when y'all say "token" do you mean "commendations"?

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Rhyltran
01.05.2012 , 01:19 PM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by JHoltJHolt View Post
How do you acquire a bag in pvp warzone?

And when y'all say "token" do you mean "commendations"?
No. This is what we mean. Level 50 pvp gear works like this. A bag requires 200 warzone commendations 200 mercenary commendations (basically 800 total). When you open this bag. You have two possible scenario's. You get centurion commendations. These can be turned in for centurion gear. Which is the weakest pvp gear. Or you can get a piece of champion gear. A token to turn in for a certain piece. (Boot tokens for boots etc.) When you get a token you only get 1 cent commendation.

So it's 800 commendations per bag. A single piece of cent gear (for the big pieces) is 39 centurion commendations. 70 for a weapon. The off set pieces are around 24. while you could get champion gear you can end up opening 30 bags without a single piece. Which is 90 cent commendations. Which isn't even 3 pieces of the main set and just barely enough for one weapon.

Therefore. You can get lucky and be fully geared in the tier 2 set really quick or you can spend up to a month of hardcore grinding for the inferior set. Worse. If you keep getting the same piece over and over you're only profiting with 1 centurion commendation making the process even longer.

TL;DR. If you and a friend are pvping hardcore. He could be fully geared within a week. You on the other hand could take up to a month.

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Aovinie
01.05.2012 , 02:22 PM | #63
To all the people posting on here, opened 3 bags got 4 pieces or whatever. just leave. Why would you even come in here unless you had the problem. go grind and get gear if its going so well. Im on my 25th champion bag with NO GEAR. Not duplicates but NOTHING AT ALL, outside these stupid worthless centurion comms which take a week to get anything, and when i do get it its worse than the gear others are getting thru luck in a day. This needs serious editing, and even if they did fix it those with the good gear will always have that advantage and will get the BM gear quicker because of it. Im valor 41 and have a champion bracer. thats it. I see people valor 20 who have all the main pieces of gear. complete trash.
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sparkvolt
01.05.2012 , 03:02 PM | #64
It's sickening seeing a back paddling, clicking, keyboard turning n00b getting destroyed due to lack of skill, but they are wearing full Champion set.

Just last warzone we get a fresh level 50 with all main pieces of Champion set, including weapon. The only thing he was missing were implants, relics, etc. He eagerly chats us up "hi guys! just hit level 50 this morning, looking forward to trying this new gear in PvP"

Battle starts and you see him getting obliterated by level 38 because he is trying to face an opponent by keyboard turning...



/facepalm /headdesk /headwall

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Nowyourdead
01.05.2012 , 03:03 PM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by Rhyltran View Post
No. This is what we mean. Level 50 pvp gear works like this. A bag requires 200 warzone commendations 200 mercenary commendations (basically 800 total). When you open this bag. You have two possible scenario's. You get centurion commendations. These can be turned in for centurion gear. Which is the weakest pvp gear. Or you can get a piece of champion gear. A token to turn in for a certain piece. (Boot tokens for boots etc.) When you get a token you only get 1 cent commendation.

So it's 800 commendations per bag. A single piece of cent gear (for the big pieces) is 39 centurion commendations. 70 for a weapon. The off set pieces are around 24. while you could get champion gear you can end up opening 30 bags without a single piece. Which is 90 cent commendations. Which isn't even 3 pieces of the main set and just barely enough for one weapon.

Therefore. You can get lucky and be fully geared in the tier 2 set really quick or you can spend up to a month of hardcore grinding for the inferior set. Worse. If you keep getting the same piece over and over you're only profiting with 1 centurion commendation making the process even longer.

TL;DR. If you and a friend are pvping hardcore. He could be fully geared within a week. You on the other hand could take up to a month.

Thanks for the detailed explanation, this is useful to know while lvling up and waiting for 50 gear.


I recall someone saying you couldn't carry more than 1 Champ Bag in your inventory, that it would get replaced if you bought another. Is it possible to store 1 in your bin and 1 in your inventory while waiting to hit 50?

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sparkvolt
01.05.2012 , 03:05 PM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by Nowyourdead View Post
Thanks for the detailed explanation, this is useful to know while lvling up and waiting for 50 gear.


I recall someone saying you couldn't carry more than 1 Champ Bag in your inventory, that it would get replaced if you bought another. Is it possible to store 1 in your bin and 1 in your inventory while waiting to hit 50?
No it is not possible. You can't stack up on vendor bags before you hit 50 and then lol-open 30 of them and get full set.

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Nowyourdead
01.05.2012 , 04:05 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by sparkvolt View Post
No it is not possible. You can't stack up on vendor bags before you hit 50 and then lol-open 30 of them and get full set.
That's not what I asked, I asked about 1 in a bin and 1 in storage, not 30.

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Fokman
01.05.2012 , 04:10 PM | #68
I too would like to see this system changed. Ive been pvping alot in the past week and now ive got 5 trinkets, but still no chest, gloves, boots or weapons. Perhaps you could implement a system where i can trade in my trinkets like commendations because at this rate I will have 10-15 before i get a full pvp set.

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Rawrie
01.05.2012 , 04:12 PM | #69
2 useless relic tokens, 4 mainhand weapon tokens 3 offhands: 1/8 of my bag full with useless crap

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MrIrrelevant
01.05.2012 , 04:24 PM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by JediProgeny View Post
I understand most of you are coming from WoW and therefore see PvP as a unique system of rewards. However, there is no difference between this system and normal raid drops in PvE. You can do the same ops 20 times and not get an upgrade if you're unlucky. There is nothing wrong with this system, it is actually much more consistent than telling PvP players they are guaranteed items at set intervals and telling PvE players they must rely on luck.
This is your answer people^. Nothing is broken or needs fixing, it is working as intended and makes sense to boot.

You can raid every day and not get a single drop of loot, some other guy may get two T1 pieces in his first raid...why should pvp gear be any different? Weren't all the hardcore pvpers crying for pvp gear to equal raid gear??? Well, here ya go....
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