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Please allow dual spec or cap respec costs.

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Please allow dual spec or cap respec costs.

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Sicknss
01.05.2012 , 03:22 PM | #411
Quote: Originally Posted by Kemosobe View Post
Actually, I have PvPed and am usually on top 3 people (in terms of medals and objectives). Doing the most damage is not a good way to determine if you are good at PvP.
Medals and objectives aren't always an indication of value either. As a Tank assassin I've carried quite a few teams in every WZ and I'm regularly near the bottom, go figure.

Quote: Originally Posted by Kemosobe View Post
"b) Why is the idea of a stored Dual Spec so upsetting when we can respec when we like right now but it's cumbersome?"

So you only want a dual spec because you are lazy and either do not want to have to go back to erase your spec or do not want to have to raise the money for it? That is a good reason for Bioware to implement something.
So you're not going to answer the question? How exactly will you be impacted by this change, would you cancel?

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Kemosobe
01.05.2012 , 03:25 PM | #412
Quote: Originally Posted by Sicknss View Post
So you're not going to answer the question? How exactly will you be impacted by this change, would you cancel?
After just dual-spec, no I won't cancel but Bioware will no longer hold a high place in the gaming industry for me.

I will also shoot you the same question, what will you do if Bioware doesn't allow you to do somthing simply because you are lazy?
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Curious how many would stand in the street staring down an oncoming garbage truck because they don't have DBM telling them to get out of the way.
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Yeah I feel sorry for the devs. The new breed of gamers are so %$$#&^%

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HoneyBoy
01.05.2012 , 03:28 PM | #413
Quote: Originally Posted by Kemosobe View Post
After just dual-spec, no I won't cancel but Bioware will no longer hold a high place in the gaming industry for me.

I will also shoot you the same question, what will you do if Bioware doesn't allow you to do somthing simply because you are lazy?
The antonym of lazy is hard-working. Why do you want to work in a video game? It should be fun not work.

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Godsfear
01.05.2012 , 03:29 PM | #414
Quote: Originally Posted by Kemosobe View Post
After just dual-spec, no I won't cancel but Bioware will no longer hold a high place in the gaming industry for me.

I will also shoot you the same question, what will you do if Bioware doesn't allow you to do somthing simply because you are lazy?
You have to have huge balls to call someone lazy while you sit on the forums playing a video game.

How is the convenience of repeccing quickly and easily lazy exactly?

So are all Rift players lazy cause they all have 5 specs?

So the only non-lazy gamers in your esteemed opinion are gamers who play mmo's with no respeccing?

It sounds like you would like Darkfall or Mortal online then.

Most of us play games to have fun and relax, not do chores and work. I have a house to clean for that.

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MillionsKNives
01.05.2012 , 03:30 PM | #415
Quote: Originally Posted by Kemosobe View Post
After just dual-spec, no I won't cancel but Bioware will no longer hold a high place in the gaming industry for me.

I will also shoot you the same question, what will you do if Bioware doesn't allow you to do somthing simply because you are lazy?
Why do people think calculators were a good idea, or cars? Because they're too lazy to do it themselves, or because it makes life easier?

Bringing up laziness is a non-argument

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Sicknss
01.05.2012 , 03:31 PM | #416
Quote: Originally Posted by Kemosobe View Post
After just dual-spec, no I won't cancel but Bioware will no longer hold a high place in the gaming industry for me.

I will also shoot you the same question, what will you do if Bioware doesn't allow you to do somthing simply because you are lazy?
I've already stated that not having dual specs is one of the biggest things that would cause this otherwise happy player to leave. You can call it laziness if that somehow increases your own self value... I think you'll notice that most people wanting this feature are people that are far more progressed than those that aren't, and I don't think it's due to laziness.

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Mdesade
01.05.2012 , 03:32 PM | #417
I primarily play a tank in a mixture of solo PvE, group PvE and PvP situations. I do not want a dual spec system. The ability to switch into different specs limits the impact of the choices you make. Dual spec doesn't let you do everything possible, but it does let you do a heck of a lot.

I don't want to be the absolute best in every single situation I encounter. I want to play to my build's strengths, excel in certain areas, and rely on group members to fill in where my character might have weaknesses.

I do support some kind of respec system due to the long-term nature of MMO characters, and due to the way the game mechanics in MMOs can change; however it should not be easy or affordable to do all the time.
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HoneyBoy
01.05.2012 , 03:32 PM | #418
Quote: Originally Posted by MillionsKNives View Post
Why do people think calculators were a good idea, or cars? Because they're too lazy to do it themselves, or because it makes life easier?

Bringing up laziness is a non-argument
Unfortunately it's the one of the few (weak) arguments the anti-dual spec crowd cling onto, because any rational person would acknowledge that something that makes other peoples' game time easier, and more enjoyable while having no negative impact on their own if they choose not to participate in it, is a good thing for this game.

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Merkrius
01.05.2012 , 03:33 PM | #419
Quote: Originally Posted by Aesri View Post
Let me be blunt. You're not trying to exploit your CHARACTER, you're exploiting the CLASS SYSTEM as if it were an in-game combat mechanic. At character creation, you pick a class based off of the role you want to play and then eventually select an AC to specialize that role further.

Flipping around at will for ease of use renders the class system moot. "I'm DPS, but now I'm TANKY and now I'm something else" fundamentally undercuts the entire REASON for choosing class/AC at all. We might as well just lump all the skills for each class/AC combination together into a single pudgy lump of a class choice and say to hell with it for all the rationale putting forth a choice and then rendering it moot at will makes.

I just don't know what is so hard to understand about the eloquently written statemnt above.
Honestly, why have ANY class system at all? Anyone? Can someone please explain to me why there isn't just ONE class that can do everything in the game? I mean it's an MMO but certainly THAT doesn't have anything to do with it right? Play an MMO to play with other people? what? no no no, I want my character to be able to do everything thank you.

What is it with all of the arcade gamers playing MMO's and then whining about how it doesn't "play" like an arcade game. The predominate whine I hear from the Dual Specers is " are you (explecitive) serious, grind up another character"? of course, your choice of words gives away your underlying contempt for MMO gameplay, so why not just change up the formula so it brings the MMO game more in line with the game you DO like to play. Well, thanks but no thanks, i'm just fine leaving MMO gameplay the way as it is in SWTOR and would thank you very kindly for NOT changeing the game to suit YOUR self interest. It will be truly unfortunate for the community as a whole if this works it's way into the game.

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Dodia
01.05.2012 , 03:34 PM | #420
Agreed, OP.