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Please allow dual spec or cap respec costs.

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salamanderx
01.05.2012 , 01:29 PM | #311
Dual spec is silly.

If you're not supposed to pick a spec then why put speccing in the game?

Roll another character, sillies. We have hordes of 50's in the game already and its only a couple weeks old. You wont break a nail, I promise.
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Sendrel
01.05.2012 , 01:30 PM | #312
Quote: Originally Posted by salamanderx View Post
Dual spec is silly.

If you're not supposed to pick a spec then why put speccing in the game?

Roll another character, sillies. We have hordes of 50's in the game already and its only a couple weeks old.
Why have a respec NPC in that case?

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salamanderx
01.05.2012 , 01:32 PM | #313
Quote: Originally Posted by Sendrel View Post
Why have a respec NPC in that case?
People make mistakes, it lets em fix it.

Obvious to me...
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Spynnal
01.05.2012 , 01:34 PM | #314
Quote: Originally Posted by Saber_Six View Post
The game does not have dual spec currently. Limited re-spec ability is not dual spec. If they were the same thing these threads would be here and you wouldn't be advocating so hard for dual spec.
My point was in reference to the quote I included, and you did not. He celebrated wanting a tank to be a tank, that knows tanking.

My retort, which remains true, was that tank could have been a dps up until 5 minutes before you met him. The game allows it. And he could be dps again next week when you see him again.

So the quote I included seemed rather invalid to me.

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BizzyBonez
01.05.2012 , 01:34 PM | #315
Quote: Originally Posted by Guarrand View Post
Actually.. Dual Spec is so wrong....
Feels like cheating to me.
Or more like spoiling people who cant choose and want everything easy.

If you want to tank... roll a tank.
If you want to healer ... roll a healer.
etc..
Whats wrong with creating 3 chars?...

And if you dont want to roll 3 chars... then you have to pay for the privilege of not having to level up 2-3 chars.

Sounds normal to me.

Being able to create 1 char that can fill 3 rolls on the fly is not only "to easy" ... its also just plain unrealistic (yes.. i said it.. unrealistic in a fantasy game!!)

But hey.. it'll probably be implemented cause there are more people wanting easy-play then there are people that want a challenge

For dual speccing to NOT be implemented would be one of the biggest mistakes this game can make.

There are many reason for dual specs for even PURE dps classes such as marauder. PVE id rather play anni spec. However PVP rage all day. Its stupid to expect me to respec all the time. Even old games like City Of Heroes have dual specs.


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But hey.. it'll probably be implemented cause there are more people wanting easy-play then there are people that want a challenge
This hardly makes sense. Your saying leveling more the one character is a challenge? Your a joke. Some people dont have time to waste leveling 3-5 characters. I personally rather level ONE character and play it the best i can in PVE and PVP.

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Sendrel
01.05.2012 , 01:34 PM | #316
Quote: Originally Posted by salamanderx View Post
People make mistakes, it lets em fix it.

Obvious to me...
So then why not a hard cap to the amount of respecs per day/week/period of time? If its just for fixing mistakes, surely you don't need an unlimited amount of them right?

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AndiusTheGreat
01.05.2012 , 01:39 PM | #317
I think that by majority the argument can be divided down these lines.

People who don't want dual specs are entirely focused on the endgame. This is why they keep making arguments like "Make alts!" These are likely the people who upon release powerleveled straight to 50 so they could experience the endgame content as fast as possible.

People who do want dual specs are more diverse but the majority of people who are actually stopping to savor the many great things Bioware has put for us to do between level 1 and 50 are mostly in favor of dual specs. That's because they realize that Bioware has filled this game with daily heroics and a flashpoint for people of prettymuch every level range but because of the lack of dual specs it takes awhile to build groups and a lot of people end up rolling with high level characters as fillers in their party just to experience the flashpoint, but doing so kills the a lot of the fun of the flashpoint.

Rolling more alts simply is not an answer to this because very few people keep all their alts around the same level.

Because of this, people are not using the flashpoints that Bioware put a lot of effort into as much as they would like to. I know I love flashpoints but if I roll as a tank I seem to find other tanks and 2 tanks in a party are useless, but then if I roll as something other than a tank we are always missing a tank. It takes so long to put groups together that I go do other content simply because I want to spend my time in-game actually playing the game.

Dual speccing would entirely solve this problem. Dual speccing is not prohibitive to role-play if you have any imagination (RPing that you switch to different sets of equipment or meditate on different aspects when you switch your specs like I spelled out in much greater detail earlier) and is prettymuch NEEDED if the content 1-50 is to be enjoyed the way it was meant to be.
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salamanderx
01.05.2012 , 01:39 PM | #318
Quote: Originally Posted by Sendrel View Post
So then why not a hard cap to the amount of respecs per day/week/period of time? If its just for fixing mistakes, surely you don't need an unlimited amount of them right?
It does cost credits so unless you have unlimited credits you dont have an unlimited amount of them. Sorry bud, you're a champ for not getting the point.
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Sendrel
01.05.2012 , 01:41 PM | #319
Quote: Originally Posted by salamanderx View Post
It does cost credits so unless you have unlimited credits you dont have an unlimited amount of them. Sorry bud, you're a champ for not getting the point.
Follow along.

There's no limit to how many credits you can make and spend (that I'm aware of). Therefore, if the only limit is monetary, there's no real limit. If it was only for mistakes, there would be a hard limit (i.e. 3 respecs per week and that's it, you can't buy more than that).

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AndiusTheGreat
01.05.2012 , 01:44 PM | #320
Quote: Originally Posted by Sendrel View Post
Follow along.

There's no limit to how many credits you can make and spend (that I'm aware of). Therefore, if the only limit is monetary, there's no real limit. If it was only for mistakes, there would be a hard limit (i.e. 3 respecs per week and that's it, you can't buy more than that).
There is a huge limit unless you are level 50 and have more money then you know what to do with. For people trying to do flashpoints, where dual speccing is most needed you are very limited because most of the people in that range can't afford to spend 100k to change their spec even once. So we only respec once a week. (Or not at all since once a week is mostly useless for meeting the needs of the party you want to help.)
Andius Meuridiar - Jedi Sage - Light Side
Kaemik Meuridiar - Jedi Gaurdian - Light Side
Tharak Meuridiar - Level 50 Sawbones - Light Side
Ajunta Pall - RP-PVP