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Please allow dual spec or cap respec costs.

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Please allow dual spec or cap respec costs.

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Spynnal
01.05.2012 , 01:14 PM | #301
Quote: Originally Posted by Sicknss View Post
I fully expect some incoherent babbling about how he'd cancel his account... minus the cancelling thing.
Well, after he called everyone who disagreed with him a mailbox humper, I'm done trying to have a rational conversation. I posted several paragraphs on why it can be helpful for a small group of friends, but he conveniently skipped over that as it doesn't fit his steroetype of all who are pro dual spec.

Whatever. At the end of the day, you can swap roles over and over and over again daily. It's just a nuisance. Even if they don't implement an easy way to do it, swapping can, has, and will continue to happen.

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Saber_Six
01.05.2012 , 01:16 PM | #302
Quote: Originally Posted by zootzoot View Post
PVP.

...and as to your idea of a PVP spec that triggers on entering a WZ...why? What's the fear of general Dual speccing?

What would Dual Spec do to make your gameplay worse if you never want to use it?
What would allowing me to change my Advanced Class do to you if you never used it?

What would allowing me to insta create level 50s do to you if you if you never used it?

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Sicknss
01.05.2012 , 01:18 PM | #303
Quote: Originally Posted by Damon_Mott View Post
Most of us are paying customers that wish to play a game on an even playing ground. Dual speccing puts people on an uneven playing ground, especially in PvP. Those that don't understand how dual specs are unfair in PvP are either ignorant or need an unfair advantage to succeed.
I must be ignorant... as I fail to see how giving something to everyone makes it unfair to anyone.

I'd also point out that you are currently paying for a game that gives this "unfair advantage"... since respeccing is already allowed.

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Sendrel
01.05.2012 , 01:18 PM | #304
Quote: Originally Posted by Damon_Mott View Post
Most of us are paying customers that wish to play a game on an even playing ground. Dual speccing puts people on an uneven playing ground, especially in PvP. Those that don't understand how dual specs are unfair in PvP are either ignorant or need an unfair advantage to succeed.
How is it an unfair advantage if everyone has access to it?

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Sicknss
01.05.2012 , 01:19 PM | #305
Quote: Originally Posted by Saber_Six View Post
What would allowing me to change my Advanced Class do to you if you never used it?

What would allowing me to insta create level 50s do to you if you if you never used it?
What would a troll do when confronted with logic?

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Sparckus
01.05.2012 , 01:24 PM | #306
Quote: Originally Posted by Damon_Mott View Post
Most of us are paying customers that wish to play a game on an even playing ground. Dual speccing puts people on an uneven playing ground, especially in PvP. Those that don't understand how dual specs are unfair in PvP are either ignorant or need an unfair advantage to succeed.
Please, spell it out to me. How can having a feature that allows you to switch from an entirely PvE focused build that you would use for FPs and ops, a tank for example to a PvP centric build unfair in PvP?

Are you saying staying with a gimped build for PvP is fair for that player?

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Spynnal
01.05.2012 , 01:24 PM | #307
Quote: Originally Posted by Damon_Mott View Post
I would much rather have a straight tank that knows his role than another who flip flops his role and never truly gets a ideal grasp on their main role.
People can swap roles currently. Just not swiftly, which is the only change anyone asked for. Their is no role immobility. That tank you mentioned could have been a dps spec five minutes before you ran into him.

As I said before, this game has dual spec. Go to a trainer, and swap, swap, swap away. Their is nothing stopping anyone. Which means implementing dual spec is nothing more than a time saving technique, because what you are against already exists.

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Saber_Six
01.05.2012 , 01:27 PM | #308
Quote: Originally Posted by Spynnal View Post
As I said before, this game has dual spec. Go to a trainer, and swap, swap, swap away. Their is nothing stopping anyone. Which means implementing dual spec is nothing more than a time saving technique, because what you are against already exists.
The game does not have dual spec currently. Limited re-spec ability is not dual spec. If they were the same thing these threads would be here and you wouldn't be advocating so hard for dual spec.

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Sendrel
01.05.2012 , 01:29 PM | #309
Quote: Originally Posted by Saber_Six View Post
The game does not have dual spec currently. Limited re-spec ability is not dual spec. If they were the same thing these threads would be here and you wouldn't be advocating so hard for dual spec.
The point is that the only thing you're currently advocating for is tedium. The respec system isn't limited in any way but money. The basics of the system is in place, its just got some built in tedium.

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Sicknss
01.05.2012 , 01:29 PM | #310
Quote: Originally Posted by Saber_Six View Post
The game does not have dual spec currently. Limited re-spec ability is not dual spec. If they were the same thing these threads would be here and you wouldn't be advocating so hard for dual spec.
If trolls didn't exist, you wouldn't be here at all.