Hero Engine: why?

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People are of course for the most part overlooking anything that is not within 2 feet of their noses.

To all the /ranters.....a couple of things to take time to understand (if you can, or are willing):

1) The engine really is a custom engine at this point, given the huge amount of modifications BW has made to it through development (their own admission, not speculation). It's not revision compatible with new release levels from the license owner. They took a core engine available off the shelf a number of years back and licensed it and modified it from there. It's like buying base code for an application and then changing it and adding to it until it meets your requirements.

2) What is mostly overlooked by the forum "experts" on game engines is that there are several components to the engine. You see the client rendering side of the engine. BUT there is also a developer side of the engine which is really where the power is for BW. If you have ever seen a demonstration of the developer modules of this engine, you will see why the developers like it so much. It's what gives them the ability to create the world you see in game. Go back to some of the early podcasts and see what BW shared in this regard. The developer side of the engine allows them to run concurrent story boarding, design, and polish on content development, and then regression test and release to the client side at a scale that has probably not been done before.

If you want to /rant and make excuses for yourself as to why to hate the game or bugs in the game, fine. Do so. But you look silly trying to pin it all on the game engine and the fact that they did not completely scratch build all the code from the foundaion up.

2) What is mostly overlooked by the forum "experts" on game engines is that there are several components to the engine. You see the client rendering side of the engine. BUT there is also a developer side of the engine which is really where the power is for BW. If you have ever seen a demonstration of the developer modules of this engine, you will see why the developers like it so much.

Will this engine handle a maxed zone of pvpers or crash like WH did?

That is my concern.

you are continuing to look more s***d than your previous post

let me answer

A) see below
B) Subjective yes misspelled. You said "loads of bugs and problems" and yet you linked me the ONE major problem that SWTOR has and they said in public they working as top priority to that. Last time i checked one =/= loads.
C) Are we gonna count the developement cycle or the "live" beta testing? i am confused. You still didnt' answer me why the perfect wow engine still has charge bug and vanish bug that "destroy" 2 signature moves from 2 classes? (i do not count that the people have learned to live with that)

who is the Biodrone and who is the Pandalover ??

I tried to make this same point 100 times. There was a giant list of CTQs (or requirements) when building this game.

They obviously chose the engine that met most or all of the most important requirements. That engine happened to be the Hero engine and they built a game around it.

No one in this thread, unless they work at Bioware, knows what that list was or what the developers needed. All we have are armchair quarterbacks who think they know why Bioware chose this engine.

The engine, is most likely, not the root cause of the issue. It most likely the application of custom development that is creating issues.

Anything buggy with the engine is probably being dealt with by the engine staff or the supplier.

I assume you're talking about HeroBlade, the dev environment? I think it seems pretty par for the course in regards to what else is out there. What are you talking about specifically?

The engine, is most likely, not the root cause of the issue. It most likely the application of custom development that is creating issues.

Anything buggy with the engine is probably being dealt with by the engine staff or the supplier.

What elements of the backend design-- of the production process; which ones are they using HeroEngine for and which ones had they done more in-house?

Neil: My understanding is that the production process is largely intact from HeroEngine. There's some upgraded features that we've added and some upgraded features that they've added but by-and-large it's the same thing. The whole concept of doing your development online in real time with your entire team logged in to the same development server remains intact.

That is really why they licensed it. That's the thing that makes this so special.

Of course that doesn't apply to you. You know exactly why they chose this engine.

you failed .............. hell even now WoW has some horrible bugs (vanish bug,charge-Jump bug etc)

you are clueless seriously