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Scoundrels/Operatives ridculously OP.

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Scoundrels/Operatives ridculously OP.

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themainamigo
01.05.2012 , 10:52 AM | #561
Quote: Originally Posted by BobaFurz View Post
I did start playing a juggernaut at lvl 10 in Battlegrounds some days ago, with 56% dmg reduction due to bolstering. A lvl 50 Maurader did 3-4 shot me with up to 3800 crit...

Show a video how a low lvl operative/scoundrell kills you with such high crits, I dont believe it.
I clearly don't need to do I, the sheer number of others saying the same thing either meens everyone is lying or it's true. Go work that out, when people other than Ops/scoundrel agree with you then fair play...

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Trevock
01.05.2012 , 10:56 AM | #562
Quote: Originally Posted by themainamigo View Post
I clearly don't need to do I, the sheer number of others saying the same thing either meens everyone is lying or it's true. Go work that out, when people other than Ops/scoundrel agree with you then fair play...
So basically you're like the rest of the QQ'ers on this forum:

Not level 50.
Get steamrolled by an Op/Scoundrel opener.
Don't use your trinket.
Don't use your bubble.
Don't use CC's against us.
Lay there on the floor like a wet dog.
Get pummeled.
Cry.
Come onto forums and QQ for nerfs.

Ignorant QQ'ing is ignorant.
Apoch
<Memories of Xendor>
50 Concealment Operative - Helm of Graush PvP Server

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powerconverter
01.05.2012 , 10:56 AM | #563
They're tough in a 1V1 situation but in something like a 5V5 with a ton of AOE flying around they get owned. I don't see a problem with that.

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BobaFurz
01.05.2012 , 10:56 AM | #564
Quote: Originally Posted by themainamigo View Post
I clearly don't need to do I, the sheer number of others saying the same thing either meens everyone is lying or it's true. Go work that out, when people other than Ops/scoundrel agree with you then fair play...

I have never seen a video about low lvl op/scoundral pvp doing such high amounts of dmg and I did never do such high crits, heck not even at lvl 42..my highest so far is 3800. My low lvl pvp did look a lot different and was very frustrating. Other classes had such more amount of dmg output, wasnt funny. And no i didnt use biochem buffs or 15% expertise. I did do pure pvp for about 12lvls, did quit 2 whole planets with quests. I have a little pvp expirience at lower levels with this class.

If you want to prove that low lvl operatives/scoundrals already faceroll everyone you have to show a video, this lvl 13 vs lvl 50 has no meaning.

This thread is full of infos about my character development and dmg output at certain lower lvls:

Weak dmg with operative
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=63704
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Darth_Vampirius
01.05.2012 , 10:59 AM | #565
Quote: Originally Posted by Zetara View Post
Maybe you need to PVP more. They are not OP, their damage does not need to be turned down, it needs to be high because they can do nothing else.
High? Marauder DMG is high. Sorc DMG is high. BH DMG is high. Operative damage? It's high X6. It's clear from your posting that you are currently playing an Op/Smug. Your sig makes even less sense... by your reasoning, it's OK to have two burst classes and 14 non-burst classes, even though there are two others classes that can do nothing but DPS, and are yet coming it at the bottom of the PVP charts. You fail.
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//We have seen the argument of Skill vs. Gear throughout the existence of MMO PvP and we are of the opinion both are good for an RPG, falling on one side of the scale (gear has no purpose in PvP vs. gear is the only thing that matters in PvP) is not desirable.//

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Obie_Wan
01.05.2012 , 10:59 AM | #566
Quote: Originally Posted by Sandzibar View Post
devs need to move away from the whole retarded rogue mechanic style/argument of "we need them to kill quickly in a stunlock cos the rest of the time they are useless".

make them useful.. and remove this terrible and outdated 3 global kill capability. its really piss poor design - but then swtor hasnt innovated much at all.. nor even learnt from the mistakes made by other older mmo's.
Truth, right here.
Outnumbered on all sides. Inferior version of "mirrored" abilities. Republic players are the real underdogs playing the game on hard mode. Show pride in your tenacity.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=101553

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HeyImTempzz
01.05.2012 , 11:01 AM | #567
Quote: Originally Posted by Trevock View Post
So basically you're like the rest of the QQ'ers on this forum:

Not level 50.
Get steamrolled by an Op/Scoundrel opener.
Don't use your trinket.
Don't use your bubble.
Don't use CC's against us.
Lay there on the floor like a wet dog.
Get pummeled.
Cry.
Come onto forums and QQ for nerfs.

Ignorant QQ'ing is ignorant.
Agree.

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OGBilly
01.05.2012 , 11:02 AM | #568
I agree that they are OP'd and i don't care what counter arguments are made, as a 50 BH Merc i was taking a control point the other day with a 50 marauder. the Smuggler killed the Marauder before i could react, he then decimated me in about 3-4 seconds and he still had over 90% health.

I have played a lot of MMO's and been very successful in PvP in each one I have played ranging from a nike Red PKer in UO through RR10 in DAOC etc etc, however, this is the most Overpowered class I have seen in any MMO. This has not been an isolated instance though, and i am certainly not whining about getting killed because I am better than everyone else. There will always be people better than you whether its by skill, equipment, a combination of both or just that you are drunk etc, that is a fact.

I know the smugglers/agents will be unhappy if they get nerfed, I have had several classes hit with nerfbats duiring my MMO history but at least i know when one is needed, and this one really is needed.

On the other hand I don't seem to have had many problems with Sages which everyone else seems to be whining about, nothing out of the ordinary anyway.

Overall the PvP is enjoyable and I'm having a blast so keep up the good work

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BDutch
01.05.2012 , 11:04 AM | #569
Quote: Originally Posted by themainamigo View Post
I clearly don't need to do I, the sheer number of others saying the same thing either meens everyone is lying or it's true. Go work that out, when people other than Ops/scoundrel agree with you then fair play...
Pretty sure the operative/scoundrel uber-mode does not start until level 40.
Originally Posted by Puja
The sentinel PVP armor is PINK and POOP colored with golden ******* and a clown helmet my brain is not able to make any sense out of. Then some sort of giant bug from the Jetsons has attached itself to the left shoulder.

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Bnol
01.05.2012 , 11:10 AM | #570
Quote: Originally Posted by OGBilly View Post
I agree that they are OP'd and i don't care what counter arguments are made, as a 50 BH Merc i was taking a control point the other day with a 50 marauder. the Smuggler killed the Marauder before i could react, he then decimated me in about 3-4 seconds and he still had over 90% health.
If he killed your teammate before you could react then you need to improve, because it had to have taken at the bare minimum 2 GCDs and more likely took 3-4 (which is possible with crits), which means it took you over 4 seconds to react.