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Hero Engine: why?


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JMESUN
01.05.2012 , 10:01 AM | #271
if he speaks the truth, then im kinda upset.. didnt think BioW would go throwback
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rylixav
01.05.2012 , 10:01 AM | #272
Quote: Originally Posted by captainmerkin View Post
Game does however run smoothly on my 5 year old rig as well.
There is absolutely zero chance that this is true.

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Jhonen
01.05.2012 , 10:01 AM | #273
Quote: Originally Posted by Jett-Rinn View Post
Yeah I have pretty much stopped trying to explain it...all I get is insulted and the Mods have seemed to stop even trying to hold back the trolling...it amazes me how awesome the in game community is and how really terrible the forums are.
If you give people a source to verify your claims, it makes it a lot easier for people to believe you.
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Jett-Rinn
01.05.2012 , 10:02 AM | #274
Quote: Originally Posted by Jhonen View Post
Said directly to you? Like in a live-chat?

If you can dig up some sources to prove what you say, I think it'll put a lot of people at ease.

There used to be hundreds of threads complaining about sharding, and I always had three articles I would link detailing how sharding was a temporary measure.
No like standing in line waiting to play SWTOR at SDCC the devs were everywhere.

All anyone has to do is Google the development of SWTOR there is a lot of information on how SWTOR is built on a highly modified version of the Hero Engine.
No one hates Star Wars as much as "Star Wars fans"

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Goretzu
01.05.2012 , 10:03 AM | #275
Quote: Originally Posted by Nemmar View Post
Wow... we sure have alot of professional programmers here. You really are programmers yes? Because otherwise theres no way you can tell what can and cant be done with this engine.

From the year i studied programming i learned that everything is possible and theres always a way to make your code more eficient. Maybe its the engine, or maybe its just a design choice they chose to rectify? We cant really tell until bioware tells us.


If you have:

1. The permission/rights to do so (just because you use an engine doesn't mean you can modify it).

2. The Developers (engine developers not MMO developers) to do so.

3. The money to pay for the Developers to do so.



You need all three to do what you suggest, it's unlikely that SWTOR has all three.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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kishe
01.05.2012 , 10:03 AM | #276
Quote: Originally Posted by rylixav View Post
QFT

I assume it was a funding thing, so maybe they couldn't afford to build they're own engine from scratch. Or perhaps they simply didn't have a development team capable of doing it, and they didn't want to bring in new people.

Either way it's a real shame, and we're paying for it. The ability lag and the performance problems alone are a nightmare.
Bioware has its own Lycium Engine that they use for all their games other than Mass Effect series, I dunno how hard it wouldve been to modify it to work with MMOs but I guess too hard as they went with Hero Engine instead.

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HeroXx
01.05.2012 , 10:03 AM | #277
Quote: Originally Posted by TheHauntingBard View Post
M8 plz, you can like recode an engine so fast these days.
Adding DX 10/11 support and proper multi core optimization is cake bro.
Just you wait bro,Bioware will just like operate this engine dude and it will be blasting!!!!.
Made me laugh.

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Jett-Rinn
01.05.2012 , 10:03 AM | #278
Quote: Originally Posted by Jhonen View Post
If you give people a source to verify your claims, it makes it a lot easier for people to believe you.
Wasn't even referring to that dude....
No one hates Star Wars as much as "Star Wars fans"

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Thankyjack
01.05.2012 , 10:04 AM | #279
Quote: Originally Posted by captainmerkin View Post
I have had no problems with the engine, it feels just like any other engine I have used in mmo's though perhaps a little better in places..

what are the issues with it? Ability delay does not affect me, nor fps loss that others are having (running on max settings myself).

I would much rather bioware spent the money on plot and character development / content etc.. than on building a new engine from scratch.

cant really think of anything missing from it that needs to be there, someone enlighten me?
Then you have not played WoW or DAOC or Age of Conan, all of which have significantly better game engines.

In fact., couple this content, with the engine from Age of Conan and you have a real winner. Of course, that's too obvious to ever be done...

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Goretzu
01.05.2012 , 10:04 AM | #280
Quote: Originally Posted by rylixav View Post
There is absolutely zero chance that this is true.


I dunno it does run ok on older stood (of course expectations are much lower too).

It doesn't like older drivers though, so the biggest issue would be if your PC had 5 year old drivers.
Real Star Wars space combat please, not Star Wars Fox! Maybe some PvP and flight too?
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