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Please allow dual spec or cap respec costs.

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Please allow dual spec or cap respec costs.

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Guarrand
01.05.2012 , 09:51 AM | #161
Quote: Originally Posted by lordgracy View Post
Its not even about it being hard its about it being *********** annoying. Let me sit and and respec for 5 mins then change all my bars around for another 10 mins then let me lose x amount of credits for having to repecs to fill a role we dont have. Its about conveinance and efficiency. When you can change spec and all your bars change with one button you are off and playing and having fun instead of sitting at the fleet dicking around with your bars, spec, etc. Wow did it for conveinance to the user instead of making the process TEDIOUS. Its about tedium its not about it being hard.
Now you are changing your story.

What you describe now is just making it easier/more efficient to RESPEC.
Creating a Dualspec feature would mean u can switch willy-nilly from one spec to another without consequences or cost.
That's just silly.

I'm all for fantasy, fiction and flexibilty... but draw a line somewhere and dont cross it.
Hell, i dont even think the Lore of SW allows it....
"Look, i'm a sith sorcerer... OH and now i'm a sith warrior...away with you double bladed lightsaber.. where are my dual wielding lightsabers!!!!" ...

Come to think of it.... i might be willign to concede to a dualspec in your CURRENT CLASS....
As a Sith Jugg, you have 3 different talent trees..
I am willing to concede that you should be able to "dualspec" without costs through those 3 talenttrees.
That way, a Jugg can be DPS or Tank...
Its another think however to let a Sith Jugg Dualspecc a Sith Sorc... that would just break the game to much and make all the classes meaningless imho.
Quote: Originally Posted by Jongar : 04-01-2012 View Post
Enjoy it while it lasts peeps :}
Next thing you realize is that there's no one left to play with...soon.

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Saber_Six
01.05.2012 , 09:52 AM | #162
Quote: Originally Posted by Kylskopshandtag View Post
And your argument is, WoW have it SWTOR should not have it?
If you have comprehension problems, sure you can believe that.

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Vessan
01.05.2012 , 09:53 AM | #163
Quote: Originally Posted by Guarrand View Post
Now you are changing your story.

What you describe now is just making it easier/more efficient to RESPEC.
Creating a Dualspec feature would mean u can switch willy-nilly from one spec to another without consequences or cost.
That's just silly.

I'm all for fantasy, fiction and flexibilty... but draw a line somewhere and dont cross it.
Hell, i dont even think the Lore of SW allows it....
"Look, i'm a sith sorcerer... OH and now i'm a sith warrior...away with you double bladed lightsaber.. where are my dual wielding lightsabers!!!!" ...

Come to think of it.... i might be willign to concede to a dualspec in your CURRENT CLASS....
As a Sith Jugg, you have 3 different talent trees..
I am willing to concede that you should be able to "dualspec" without costs through those 3 talenttrees.
That way, a Jugg can be DPS or Tank...
Its another think however to let a Sith Jugg Dualspecc a Sith Sorc... that would just break the game to much and make all the classes meaningless imho.
I think you missed the point of this topic like 13 pages ago ... Dual spec is purely about changing your talent trees not classes or advance classes ...

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Belunos
01.05.2012 , 09:53 AM | #164
Quote: Originally Posted by Guarrand View Post
Now you are changing your story.

What you describe now is just making it easier/more efficient to RESPEC.
Creating a Dualspec feature would mean u can switch willy-nilly from one spec to another without consequences or cost.
That's just silly.

I'm all for fantasy, fiction and flexibilty... but draw a line somewhere and dont cross it.
Hell, i dont even think the Lore of SW allows it....
"Look, i'm a sith sorcerer... OH and now i'm a sith warrior...away with you double bladed lightsaber.. where are my dual wielding lightsabers!!!!" ...

Come to think of it.... i might be willign to concede to a dualspec in your CURRENT CLASS....
As a Sith Jugg, you have 3 different talent trees..
I am willing to concede that you should be able to "dualspec" without costs through those 3 talenttrees.
That way, a Jugg can be DPS or Tank...
Its another think however to let a Sith Jugg Dualspecc a Sith Sorc... that would just break the game to much and make all the classes meaningless imho.
That's all I'm asking for. I've not seen anyone asking to change class or advanced class, just to have duel spec in the same advanced class

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Truga
01.05.2012 , 09:53 AM | #165
Quote: Originally Posted by Belunos View Post
but I still play my DPS characters more because guess what, I'm in a group a LOT less than when I'm playing alone.
And these people are telling me to go play skyrim? I've been in a group pretty much the entire time I've been playing this game... The only exceptions were space missions and some class quests (why don't these have multiplayer in an MMO is beyond me, but that's another topic). I honestly am starting to see the problem now.

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Mastodonic
01.05.2012 , 09:54 AM | #166
The people who complain about dual spec are the EXACT same people who piss and moan there aren't enough healers and tanks. Hypocrites.

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Saber_Six
01.05.2012 , 09:54 AM | #167
Quote: Originally Posted by Vessan View Post
I think you missed the point of this topic like 13 pages ago ... Dual spec is purely about changing your talent trees not classes or advance classes ...
Why the arbitrary line? Why not ACs? Why would you impede my fun?

See how that plays!

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Truga
01.05.2012 , 09:55 AM | #168
Quote: Originally Posted by Vessan View Post
I dont know about other classes but I look at the Sage healer tree and there might as well not even be a healer talent tree. I think I have 3 points or so to play with after I take the obvious healing talents. I can only assume its the same for tanks (and I know it kinda is for sents / marauders with the trees buffing a specific stance). So I fail to see this "hybrid" builds you talk about, I do however see the potential for "gimp" builds that little timmy makes cos the talents look cool but share little synergy
I have a guardian tank that has more points in dps than in the defense tree. It works great. There's even a guide for a quite similar build to mine in the guardian forum.

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Garnet
01.05.2012 , 09:55 AM | #169
Quote: Originally Posted by Truga View Post
Hybrid specs should be viable, and dual specs make them completely obsolete, since you can do something in one fight and another thing in the next, this removing a hybrid spec's usability. As such, such specs don't even get looked at by developers, because only a very very small percentage of people use them. As such, they go out of use due to them being non-viable. I'd rather see BW keep hybrid specs viable and competitive than introducing dual-spec.
Right.

Only a very very small percentage of people use them. This is not only true when DS is in, but when it is out too. If someone has a role in PvE, of course they're going to be fully specced in their ROLE. Having undefined roles like, oh hey, you're kinda healy but also kinda DPS doesn't work.

You want to save a type of playstyle only a minority care about at the expense of the majority's desire for greater flexibility.

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Saber_Six
01.05.2012 , 09:56 AM | #170
Quote: Originally Posted by Mastodonic View Post
The people who complain about dual spec are the EXACT same people who piss and moan there aren't enough healers and tanks. Hypocrites.
And the award for making things up goes to Mastodonic!