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Please allow dual spec or cap respec costs.

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Jambert
01.05.2012 , 09:45 AM | #151
Quote: Originally Posted by Saber_Six View Post
How did WoW ever survive all that time before enabling dual specing?
That post was indeed an overstatement. But I'm yet to see a reasonable post to NOT have a dual spec feature in the game. Having a single spec might work if you only do PvE, but if you do various things in game, PvP, PvE, whatever, and on a regular basis, it's a hellish money sink to respec at the moment, especially when there is such a variation on content.
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Zalophus
01.05.2012 , 09:45 AM | #152
I can guarantee that pretty much every single person against duel speccing either A.) doesn't raid, B.) doesn't PvP AND PvE, or C.) is a DPS.

The "role"/RP reasoning behind this is moot, as no one is talking about AC changing and resetting your talents is already something that has existed since day one. And I still find the idea of someone leveling a Powertech as Shield and another Powertech as Prototype being a viable solution to having a DPS and tank to be preposterous (let alone if you want a third for PvP). Duel spec or a lower cap for respec should be a must.
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Vessan
01.05.2012 , 09:46 AM | #153
Quote: Originally Posted by Saber_Six View Post
Respec Trainer with increasing penalties to use =/= Dual Spec option to freely swap specs

Speaking of geniuses, geez!
Respec trainers break my roleplayign experience and I think they should be removed. I mean why can my character just forget about his healing skills and take more PEW PEW skills. It just doesnt make sense. My boyfriend told me its because wookies come from Endor can someone confirm this ?

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Truga
01.05.2012 , 09:46 AM | #154
Quote: Originally Posted by Vessan View Post
If you have that then why not just have a computer do it for you cross server as per a dungeon finder .. i mean it promotes about as much community
Does it give me the ability to choose to decline people? To talk to them before they join etc? As I'm often leading PUGs, I really like to get to know what kind of a people I'm going to group with.

Back on topic, yes. A group of people with specific specs will roll people will hybrid specs over like nothing. Dual spec will make the problem worse, because BW won't have to balance hybrid specs, since they won't even exist.

Hybrid specs should be viable, and dual specs make them completely obsolete, since you can do something in one fight and another thing in the next, this removing a hybrid spec's usability. As such, such specs don't even get looked at by developers, because only a very very small percentage of people use them. As such, they go out of use due to them being non-viable. I'd rather see BW keep hybrid specs viable and competitive than introducing dual-spec.

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Saber_Six
01.05.2012 , 09:48 AM | #155
Quote: Originally Posted by zootzoot View Post
How did people survive without TV, Radio, Cars, the Internet, Planes...yada, yada, yada.

Please stop using that horrible excuse. Just because we did something in the past doesn't make it better.
But that is your argument! Your argument is that past games (WoW, etc) have dual spec so SWTOR should have it. /facepalm

PS: Read the post I was responding to. Where it was said the game will fail without respec.

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lordgracy
01.05.2012 , 09:48 AM | #156
Quote: Originally Posted by Saber_Six View Post
How did WoW ever survive all that time before enabling dual specing?
Because it was never implemented so people had to deal with it? They *****ed about it, which is rightfully so, so then they implemented it and ALOT of people were estactic about it. I being one of them.
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zolthie
01.05.2012 , 09:49 AM | #157
Quote: Originally Posted by Saber_Six View Post
But that is your argument! Your argument is that past games (WoW, etc) have dual spec so SWTOR should have it. /facepalm
No, his argument is that dual spec is a necessity and should be implented in every mmo,

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Kylskopshandtag
01.05.2012 , 09:50 AM | #158
Quote: Originally Posted by Saber_Six View Post
But that is your argument! Your argument is that past games (WoW, etc) have dual spec so SWTOR should have it. /facepalm
And your argument is, WoW have it SWTOR should not have it?

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Vessan
01.05.2012 , 09:50 AM | #159
Quote: Originally Posted by Truga View Post
Does it give me the ability to choose to decline people? To talk to them before they join etc? As I'm often leading PUGs, I really like to get to know what kind of a people I'm going to group with.

Back on topic, yes. A group of people with specific specs will roll people will hybrid specs over like nothing. Dual spec will make the problem worse, because BW won't have to balance hybrid specs, since they won't even exist.

Hybrid specs should be viable, and dual specs make them completely obsolete, since you can do something in one fight and another thing in the next, this removing a hybrid spec's usability. As such, such specs don't even get looked at by developers, because only a very very small percentage of people use them. As such, they go out of use due to them being non-viable. I'd rather see BW keep hybrid specs viable and competitive than introducing dual-spec.
I dont know about other classes but I look at the Sage healer tree and there might as well not even be a healer talent tree. I think I have 3 points or so to play with after I take the obvious healing talents. I can only assume its the same for tanks (and I know it kinda is for sents / marauders with the trees buffing a specific stance). So I fail to see this "hybrid" builds you talk about, I do however see the potential for "gimp" builds that little timmy makes cos the talents look cool but share little synergy

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Sicknss
01.05.2012 , 09:50 AM | #160
I'm very happy with this game and think there is FAR too much complaining... that being said, I'm disappointed that dual specs weren't introduced at launch and this will be one of the biggest factors in continuing my subscription.