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Why do healers get Shafted on Medals in PVP? Solutions inside

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Why do healers get Shafted on Medals in PVP? Solutions inside

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yukirshiro
01.04.2012 , 02:33 PM | #41
People are sorta missing the point here. Yes, healers can do ok if they stop healing to dps. But that promotes dumb play.

I can't tell you how many times I've let people die because I was DPSing instead to get an actual reward.

The PVP rewards system in this game is beyond stupid. When you have people in huttball who do nothing all game but farm low level solo noobs with an operative at the enemy's goal line getting twice as many medals as people who spend the whole game capping the ball you know something's wrong.

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PetrusAduro
01.04.2012 , 02:37 PM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by yukirshiro View Post
People are sorta missing the point here. Yes, healers can do ok if they stop healing to dps. But that promotes dumb play.

I can't tell you how many times I've let people die because I was DPSing instead to get an actual reward.

The PVP rewards system in this game is beyond stupid. When you have people in huttball who do nothing all game but farm low level solo noobs with an operative at the enemy's goal line getting twice as many medals as people who spend the whole game capping the ball you know something's wrong.
Only time I let people die is if it benifits the win. Doing that, I still get plenty of medals.

As far as your last sentence... that's the real issue. It has nothing to do with healing/dps/tanking medals being balanced or not, but rather the fact that you get medals for healing/dpsing/tanking, instead of playing the game.

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Lugh
01.04.2012 , 02:38 PM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by madmarttigann View Post
This is a serious post about why healers do not have the opportunity in the course of a match to get an adequate amount of medals. DPS and other people can easily pump out 5-6 medals, and for a healer a SIX medal game is a GREAT game.

I'm disgusted healing for over 300k, almost 400 and i get like 4 medals while other people have 7-8. This also when I make a POINT to kill steal and get to 25k damage.


Healers need to get medals for these things:

150k healing ( I had someone told me this existed, but NO it is not true I just did 220k and got nothing)
4K single heal

Add those and I would be a very happy man. I know it would be way to complicated for them to actually keep track of saving people from under 10% health but something like 10 saves in one match would also be nice.

EDIT: Sorry Didn't realize there was a 300k healing medal, I have done it multiple times but never pay attention. I still believe there should be a 150k though. We need SOMETHING.
What you need to be doing is your part in CCing, and Damaging the opposing team. Just healing isn't enough.
Only two things are infinite The Universe and Human stupidity and I am not so sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
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Lugh
01.04.2012 , 02:41 PM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by yukirshiro View Post
People are sorta missing the point here. Yes, healers can do ok if they stop healing to dps. But that promotes dumb play.

I can't tell you how many times I've let people die because I was DPSing instead to get an actual reward.

The PVP rewards system in this game is beyond stupid. When you have people in huttball who do nothing all game but farm low level solo noobs with an operative at the enemy's goal line getting twice as many medals as people who spend the whole game capping the ball you know something's wrong.
It takes no time to hit project and weaken mind in between heals.

It takes no time to shield someone. Throw the big aoe heal into a scrum and then forcequake to your hearts content.

You have lots of options to earn medals. You know what they are. Either maximize your play to get all of them or don't.
Only two things are infinite The Universe and Human stupidity and I am not so sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein
Aka --Alia Ajunta Pall

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Modecrypt
01.04.2012 , 02:59 PM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by PetrusAduro View Post
Gotta really disagree with you here. Utility is VERY OFTEN better than pure DPS or pure heals. knockbacks, stuns, CCs, snares, killing people, etc, reduces the overall damage being dealt to friendlies. Often times an interrupt or CC will reduce incoming damage WAY more than what a heal will heal for.

Play smart, don't tunnel on what you're "supposed" to do.
We don't disagree at all really. I agree with everything that you just said. Everything that you said is expected of a PVP healer and is being done.

You don't get any medals from what you listed though, which is what this thread is about.

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madmarttigann
01.05.2012 , 08:43 AM | #46
I am doing damage. There is hardly a game where I do not have the 25k damage and 1 killing blow medals, but even you guys have to agree when your team is taking a lot of damage the Global cooldown on this game does not give you enough time for damage and healing. So sometimes, I have 400k healing and like 10k damage just from stuns and slows and knockbacks. When I heal for over 400k I deserve to be shafted, that is what yall are saying??

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Flarenza
01.05.2012 , 09:11 AM | #47
Pretty much yeah, you deserve it since you aren't doing all of your job. If they added more medals just for healing that would mean some healers could consistently get 14-15 medals a match. I have seen a healer with 12 medals once, that was able to get both the 5k damage AND the 5k healing medal at the same time... Those alone would make up 4 medals(including 2.5k) and adding more would be unfair to the dps, who I rarely see hit 8 let alone 7 medals.

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Oakenhart
01.05.2012 , 09:24 AM | #48
I would love to see healing medals similar to the tank's Protection medals.

For example: Heal X0,000 health in a single life

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Noeren
01.05.2012 , 09:27 AM | #49
Healers must NOT do a damage. CC is okay but they are not supposed to do damage. If healer is doing damage - he is dd. Deal with it.

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Koort
01.05.2012 , 09:39 AM | #50
First ill start out by saying i'm a lvl 50 Merc Bodyguard with the 4 set bonus and almost a full pvp set (damn you elusive boots). I can fairly often get 5-6 medals in a pvp war zone healing between 280-380k.

That being said, a few more medals would be nice, a few ideas would be:

Savior : Heal a team mate with less than 500hp back to full health.
Body Guard : Heal a single target for 75k healing.