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Why are so many people saying this game is bad?

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Why are so many people saying this game is bad?

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LilPika
01.05.2012 , 07:57 AM | #121
Quote: Originally Posted by Iusedtoplaywow View Post
I don't think you understand whats going on at all, let me try to explain it for you.

People that are complaining aren't really saying 'ZOMG GIVE ME CONTENT NOW NOW NOW', its more of a 'Hey, there is nothing to do at 50 and there a lot of bugs preventing competitive gameplay which drives subscriptions. If this doesn't get fixed by the time the mass of casuals(YOU) hit 50, this game is dunzo'.

Thats it. Its really that simple. People that are complaining are smart enough to know what makes an MMO 'stick'. After you invest 3 months casually leveling your perfect little jedi into being you are going to be pretty dissapointed to find out theres nothing you can actually do with him that is meaningful.
After three months i'm 100% certain there will be PLENTY of stuff to do...
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PjPablo
01.05.2012 , 07:57 AM | #122
Quote: Originally Posted by Iusedtoplaywow View Post
I don't think you understand whats going on at all, let me try to explain it for you.

People that are complaining aren't really saying 'ZOMG GIVE ME CONTENT NOW NOW NOW', its more of a 'Hey, there is nothing to do at 50 and there a lot of bugs preventing competitive gameplay which drives subscriptions. If this doesn't get fixed by the time the mass of casuals(YOU) hit 50, this game is dunzo'.

Thats it. Its really that simple. People that are complaining are smart enough to know what makes an MMO 'stick'. After you invest 3 months casually leveling your perfect little jedi into being you are going to be pretty dissapointed to find out theres nothing you can actually do with him that is meaningful.
Despite the trollish name I totally agree with you. If the 'way to play' is to constantly reroll in order to 'experience' storylines that isn't going to be enough of a hook for quite a lot of people. Retention rates would plummet.

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PjPablo
01.05.2012 , 07:59 AM | #123
Quote: Originally Posted by LilPika View Post
So you've saw all eight class storylines? You bought a BW game and thought it would be all about PvP and Dungeons? No, story has always been BWs strong point. Go see what another classes story is. That should keep you entertained.
This isn't a single player game. (Ok, to some it is). For MMOs to be successful, to get people to keep paying the sub, there has to some sort of attachment to their character. A reason to grow and build them. If the design goal is to play them all you'll have a tough time creating that attachment that keeps people coming back.

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hushia
01.05.2012 , 08:00 AM | #124
Quote: Originally Posted by Medicinally View Post
If you're a competitive gamer there are issues. If you're some carebear casual you won't even notice the problems. If the game feels really responsive and you never encounter ability lag etc then you are likely in the latter group.
Wait.. wut? So if I don't agree it is because I'm 'some carebear casual'?
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duelpad
01.05.2012 , 08:01 AM | #125
Quote: Originally Posted by KingFastrod View Post
I am curious to know why all the hate for this game in this forum? I been playing for about a week now, and this is the most fun I have had with an mmo since I quit playing WoW.
From what I've seen it's mainly the 'MMO' orientated players complaining about certain popular MMO features being missing, the 'RPG' orientated players seem quite content.

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Niclamus
01.05.2012 , 08:03 AM | #126
My biggest issues with the game are in the fact that endgame content was clearly not tested. Bonethrasher wasn't tested at all before release - you could tell by the fact that you couldn't even engage the boss.

Now they are pushing out patches without testing them. Once again apparent with the fact that they 'fixed' Bonethrasher, yet he is still bugged. Sure you can engage him now, but you can also die while in the dialogue getting to him.

Oh, and that they put in the patch notes that you can now emote while on mounts, but you cannot. Nothing was actually fixed there, and they didn't even test it clearly.

Oh! Also! Half of the population couldn't raid tonight because their patch broke phasing! How does that one even make it off the test shard?

If they do not fix all of these issues before the casual players start hitting max level, the game is not going to make it. I really enjoy this game, and I want it to succeed, but the buggy endgame is starting to wear me down.
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LilPika
01.05.2012 , 08:05 AM | #127
Quote: Originally Posted by PjPablo View Post
This isn't a single player game. (Ok, to some it is). For MMOs to be successful, to get people to keep paying the sub, there has to some sort of attachment to their character. A reason to grow and build them. If the design goal is to play them all you'll have a tough time creating that attachment that keeps people coming back.
And I totally 100% agree. But the game is mere weeks old. You have more unique content than most MMOs have in their life at your finger tips. You have eight engaging and unique storylines to get through and experience, like 8 inidivudal little stories.

Will social interaction become an essential part of the game? Yes, of course it will, and it'll be put in probably with a nice new big open planet and a daily quest hub in the near future. But I'd estimate less than 10% of the players are anywhere near 50 right now on even one character. You've got lots to do. Don't act like the game has nothing going for it.
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KittyPrawn
01.05.2012 , 08:07 AM | #128
Quote: Originally Posted by PjPablo View Post
It was marketed as an MMO though and therein the confusion may lie.
MMO is short for MMORPG - or massively multi-player ROLE-PLAYING game. In this instance, I might have to say that SWToR does it right. Unfortunately for Bioware, the "standard-setting" MMOs didn't really focus on interactive/immersive story, so people don't expect it.
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Iusedtoplaywow
01.05.2012 , 08:08 AM | #129
Quote: Originally Posted by LilPika View Post
And I totally 100% agree. But the game is mere weeks old. You have more unique content than most MMOs have in their life at your finger tips. You have eight engaging and unique storylines to get through and experience, like 8 inidivudal little stories.

Will social interaction become an essential part of the game? Yes, of course it will, and it'll be put in probably with a nice new big open planet and a daily quest hub in the near future. But I'd estimate less than 10% of the players are anywhere near 50 right now on even one character. You've got lots to do. Don't act like the game has nothing going for it.
Im on character 3 and storylines unfortunately only encompass about 5% of the leveling experience. EVERYTHING else is exactly the same on the planets.

Now had your decisions in the class areas affected what side quests were available to you, replay value would have skyrocketed.

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Sumire
01.05.2012 , 08:08 AM | #130
I've not heard one person say the game is bad, any "normal" people anyway. Of course you will get the losers that rushed to level 50, did everything and now have nothing to do except complain and compare it with another very popular MMO that has been out 6 years.
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