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Hero Engine: why?


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Sunsoar
01.05.2012 , 12:15 AM | #111
Quote: Originally Posted by daemian View Post
He was referring to the engine's capabilities.
The version BioWare is running or in general? Because in general who cares. We are still playing a barely decent looking game currently. DX9 is depressing and unless this man of the hero engine knows it supports DX10/11 then the engine and TOR will continue to only ever look decent.
Without me, it's just aweso.
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This game desperately needs some sandbox elements. Repetitive grinding is not fun.

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daemian
01.05.2012 , 12:16 AM | #112
Quote: Originally Posted by Sunsoar View Post
The version BioWare is running or in general? Because in general who cares. We are still playing a barely decent looking game currently. DX9 is depressing and unless this man of the hero engine knows it supports DX10/11 then the engine and TOR will continue to only ever look decent.
"We are considering plans for DX11 in the future. That’s all we can say at this time." - Bioware

It's not without its issues, but I like the way the game looks.

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darthdoll
01.05.2012 , 12:16 AM | #113
Quote: Originally Posted by Sunsoar View Post
The version BioWare is running or in general? Because in general who cares. We are still playing a barely decent looking game currently. DX9 is depressing and unless this man of the hero engine knows it supports DX10/11 then the engine and TOR will continue to only ever look decent.
Decent for you, I think it looks great.

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HELhikari
01.05.2012 , 12:17 AM | #114
Quote: Originally Posted by its_them View Post
How can BW legally modify the game engine if the engine does not belong to them?

And where are you getting all your inside info from?
Because a lot of development products come with the option to buy a source code licence that allows you to modify the source code to your own requirements.
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Ankido
01.05.2012 , 12:20 AM | #115
Quote: Originally Posted by darthdoll View Post
Decent for you, I think it looks great.
Can I have some crack? I run full settings and there's always dark face and the shadowing is not correct. The game looks like crap. Don't look at environment, yes it looks great. The player themselves look like crap.
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Chikai
01.05.2012 , 12:21 AM | #116
I'm sure BioWare can dish out some $$$ to the devs at HeroEngine if they want something improved with it. Even without it, I'm sure the engine is developed, not left at its current state.
It's working relatively good and I use it myself for a game project, I can see why BW likes it!
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Chromiie
01.05.2012 , 12:21 AM | #117
Quote: Originally Posted by Arkerus View Post
I work for one of the biggest corporations in the world..

HA lies.
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bbbmmmlll
01.05.2012 , 12:23 AM | #118
Quote: Originally Posted by Arkerus View Post
I work for one of the biggest corporations in the world.

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Did you ever stop to think for one moment that the reason they chose the hero engine was because it met their list of requirements? Their CTQs perhaps? (If you know project management you know what I am talking about.) What if half the stuff they wanted to do couldn't be built with other engines? What if building a NEW engine was going to cost another 25 million?

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Oh and for the record, graphically this engine is great. No one can run the full extent of the engine without some serious power, but yes graphically is very good.
Would that be McDonalds or Walmart? I'm not seeing the relevance of this comment. Working for a large corporate doesn't mean anything. A lot of people work for large companies.

Re: requirements: That's exactly my point. They looked at the feature set and decided to assume a large amount of risk by using an engine without a history or proven game behind it. The fundamental features that the game currently provides, many more established engines could have provided without as much risk. I wouldn't propose they build their own engine, but that strategy did work out very well for WoW. They have the most responsive MMO engine that I know of which is a huge complaint with this engine.

By what definition is the engine great? No DX10, DX11 or support for multi-core? Have you seen any moving water, reflections, or atmospheric effects? They had to remove high quality textures because of engine bugs. If you can't run the game at it's fullest extent it's likely because of bugs in the engine and the lack of optimization. I think the quality when it works is acceptable, but I wouldn't go beyond that.

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Jediwran
01.05.2012 , 12:26 AM | #119
Quote: Originally Posted by _BaconStrips_ View Post
This thread makes me sad, knowing that the game was doomed before it even began.
Even so, they have commited the grave sin of not giving us server forums and that is all on them, so it doesn't really matter to me. If they don't add them before diablo 3 comes out I won't be giving them any more of my money.
This has to be the dumbest thing I've read. I can't believe people are this petty. It's mind-boggling, it really is. My god people...

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McTurbo
01.05.2012 , 12:28 AM | #120
ooh.. to bad we dont have the frostbite engine from BF3 now that would make for a killer MMO :P (drooling)