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Arena system, Ranks, ladder and Cross realm implementation

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Arena system, Ranks, ladder and Cross realm implementation

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Mazikeen
01.04.2012 , 03:49 PM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by esorydal View Post
if we go by your logic WHAT WAS THE POINT OF MAKING THIS GAME A MMO? ITS STAR WARS YOU RETARD SITH VS JEDI HELLO? and its not just a pve game theres a gosh darn pvp forum and your in it...... and no not everyones like you people dont like slaying dragons all day just for the sake of slaying dragons all day its has to have a purpose the pupose is PVP good thing you arent a devs the game wouldnt have seen the light of day
What, exactly, does this game being Star War shave to do with making xserver WFs or ranked systems? Even if ranked systems are going to be added, I want you to explain your logic to me
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Dannyj_
01.04.2012 , 03:49 PM | #62
Never ever implent cross server ******** please...
Thank you very much

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Felene
01.04.2012 , 03:52 PM | #63
Do some research on BioWare Dev approach to Cross-server queue, Arena, Rank warzone and what is happening to WoW's Arena system before you make a pointless thread again.

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Thundartwothree
01.04.2012 , 03:53 PM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by esorydal View Post
your talking to the WRONG PERSON LOL im a person that hit top 3 on bloodlust almost ever season the only reason why wow died was because OF CATA NOT PVP ARE YOU SERIOUSLY BRINGING THAT UP LOL? The only thing keeping up wow IS PVP cata killed wow not its pvp dont type anymore your seriously ignorant
Im sorry I really have no idea what you're trying to say here? Is this english?

So there was no PvP in Cata and every season in Cata was and is not considered the worst PvP in WoW...like ever? So bad the ladders colapsed twice, so bad MLG dropped WoW, apparently so bad you, your pro self quit the game.

Im sorry but this statement is so all over the place its un-readable
I will reach my field of battle at any means at my disposal, and when I get there I will arrive violently, no one will deny me, no one will defy me.

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esorydal
01.04.2012 , 03:55 PM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by Thundartwothree View Post
Im sorry I really have no idea what you're trying to say here? Is this english?

So there was no PvP in Cata and every season in Cata was and is not considered the worst PvP in WoW...like ever? So bad the ladders colapsed twice, so bad MLG dropped WoW, apparently so bad you, your pro self quit the game.

Im sorry but this statement is so all over the place its un-readable
thats what im saying cata destroyed wow thats why im trying new things

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Thundartwothree
01.04.2012 , 03:57 PM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by esorydal View Post
no if a person was good in wow he could do it wow also PERMA BANS win traders PERMA you got your info from the wrong place. Stop talking about hacks it dosent exist in wow and neither will it in swtor they have a team that looks over that.
I think you have some massive blinders on champ. Hacks have been in WoW for a loooooong time, and people who cant really PvP or Arena will use them here to. I wish I could be as blissfully ignorant as yourself.
I will reach my field of battle at any means at my disposal, and when I get there I will arrive violently, no one will deny me, no one will defy me.

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esorydal
01.04.2012 , 03:59 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by Thundartwothree View Post
I think you have some massive blinders on champ. Hacks have been in WoW for a loooooong time, and people who cant really PvP or Arena will use them here to. I wish I could be as blissfully ignorant as yourself.
nope no hacks in wow people get instantly banned your be littleing all the hardwork those players had to do to acheive those ranks please dont do this your saying things thats just frankly are a lie

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TheFishes
01.04.2012 , 03:59 PM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by esorydal View Post
Please implement cross realm, ladder system and ranks.
I want the whole pvp community united instead of tiny groups here and there that think they are cool so you have to worship there leader to join them instead of showing real skill.

A ranking system or a ladder system to show how good you are should also be implemented so people can prove themselves instead of going by words.

I really expected more, I for one dont consider content leveling characters to 50 all day which is what some of these people think content is. I like to tell tell those people to play bioshock, final fantasy super mario and all those single player games because those games dont have pvp its just one big grind fest your type of games
First of all, let me say that I'm working under the assumption that you started playing WoW sometime after January 16th, 2007... Or at least, that was the first time you PvP'd. More likely you started after Arena Season 3, but that's based more upon the points you presented above...

Let's look at some of them...

A ranking system is in NO WAY the only way to show "how good you are" to major guild leaders and PvP organizers. In fact, from most perspectives beyond the narrow scope of WoW, it's the LEAST likely way to get noticed. PvPers are PvPing, not looking up your stats...

Here's a specific example since you've most likely never been in an open world PvP scenario in your MMO history... I'm on the field with 20 of my guildies, stabbing, slashing, and healing away, fighting tooth and nail for every inch of ground we take. You pop out in their back lines, and demolish 2 healers, we push on... OR... Our front line is going down, fast, and you pull up right next to our healing core and start shielding/healing/buffing the front line to keep them up... OR... On your tank, you notice that our healers get jumped by a few stealth DPS, and you immediately run over, pop guard, and taunt them off...

THESE are the ways to get noticed in a large scale pvp game... Or, you know, being social always works... it's RARE that we have EXACTLY a full Ops group running around, and we'll be more than happy to pick you up for the duration of the ensuing battle... Oh, you did well? Like, really well? Have our VP contact him/her about joining...

A ranking system/ladder system only shows how devoted you are to grinding... Cause that's all it is... I'd rather invest time and group training into someone who maybe plays less, but has a job, and I don't have to worry about them paying their subscription to play every month than one who sits at home all day and grinds this game out...

As far as X-server PvP goes, (and the reason I made the guess at when you started playing WoW), It's what ruins a server's PvP Community... You know all those kids in BG's over in WoW who scream things in /raid like "L2P Noobs!" and "You guys all suck ***!" and "Just let them win, maybe next time I won't get such a S***** group!!!"...? Well, they're now learning about what it's like to deal with accountability on their own server... They're saying to themselves "Wait a minute, why won't anyone group with me for Flashpoints?" and low and behold they just so happened to be in with a 4 man premade of a top guild on the server... And here's a fun fact, in games other than WoW, All of the top guild's leaders know each other, theorycraft together, and compare strategy... ESPECIALLY IN A LARGE SCALE PVP GAME!!!

The *only* point I agree with, and it was through no fault of your own that you made it, was a Ranked Warzone Mechanic that lets us queue as full 8 mans... Not in groups of 2 or 3, but as 8 people playing together to show who has the most cohesion (read: skill) as a group for the purposes of winning at PvP... Huttball is already set up to do this, and I love me some Huttball... Mostly because WoW only players can't wrap their heads around "Wait, I have to fight the other team, AND the zone?!?!?!?!?!11 /brainexplode..."

For now though, I'm eagerly anticipating the bulk of players hitting 50 so there can be some truly epic Ilum (read: Praag, RvR, Tarren Mill before your time) battles...

As for your comment on content... The leveling content is just as valid as the end game content. Those casuals who just want to play through all 8 story lines (16 if you count light and dark) are the ones who are paying every month for development to further the endgame content. Sorry, but it's true... Very true... And even more so is that your rare breed of "I'm elite, I'm unsubbing til you fix this," are obviously not contributing to getting what they want.

Here's the long and the short of it... Who am I? I'm a hardcore, "elite" player with many MMO's under my belt in which I have been PvP lead or guild leader for some of the hardest content pushers on our server. But I also understand that the payoff of a World, large scale PvP outline is far more satisfying and grandiose than hitting 2400+ in arenas. I've done both, and still am not too impressed with the arena side of things.

That, for now, is all...

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Thundartwothree
01.04.2012 , 03:59 PM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by esorydal View Post
thats what im saying cata destroyed wow thats why im trying new things
So you want to try new things and drag them same game plauging problems into the new game? I'm sorry your logic is just plain off kilter sport. It cannot and will not work in TOR, or any other MMO unless every singlle DPS class does the same damage the same abilities, same goes for healing specs, it just does not work in MMOs and it degrades the games that have attempted them.
I will reach my field of battle at any means at my disposal, and when I get there I will arrive violently, no one will deny me, no one will defy me.

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TheFishes
01.04.2012 , 04:02 PM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by esorydal View Post
nope no hacks in wow people get instantly banned your be littleing all the hardwork those players had to do to acheive those ranks please dont do this your saying things thats just frankly are a lie
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see... try it...
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