Arena system, Ranks, ladder and Cross realm implementation

Im guessing you havent had real experience with it either, WoWs competive PvP ladders over the last 2 arena season have completely and utterly colapsed, due to factors so out of control it has been largely ignored by their PvP development team, cheating/hacking/windtrading/class imbalance have completely killed the entire system over there so much so the MLG(Major League Gamming) dropped WoW off their esports. And Starcraft's system works due to it not being and MMO.

Arena style play and Ladders systems DO NOT WORK in MMOs.

That's not anything like what I was talking about. That's arenas. I want to play WZ's (objective based game play not pointless death matches) with a group of players against the opposing factions group of players.

Rated WZ's would be even better but with the way it is now its fine, if anything its putting people in the position where they want to join PVP focused guilds rather then be some random that has to keep going up against premades all day. Almost every match on my server is either with or against a premade, but they are all on the same server I can name a bunch of noteworthy guilds on both factions that have come up and people look for them and have started to know their playstyles and are working on metagaming to change their style of play based on who were up against. That is the community I'm hoping to save by not going cross realm.

This has a lot of ideas that are used in arena, but the difference is its not arena. Its not the monotonous 5v5 death matches that imo ruined WoW pvp. I enjoy playing objective based pvp and hope it will continue to be similar in the future. The deathmatch play can be left to open world imo. There already is an arena, if you like arena so much why don't you guys get onto your server forums and get some people together and do that? If there is such a massive interest in it surely it would be an easy task...

Im talking about WoW yes, they have its been proven over and over and over and over again. SC2 is not an MMO and I wasnt talking about that.

WoW has arena players that Bot random BGs to get gear for Arena's which have had entire arena seasons ruined by people using DDOS hacks/GCD hacks/Lag hacks/cheesing the ladder, so much so people dont even know if a high ranked team earned its rank or just exploited their way there.

your talking to the WRONG PERSON LOL im a person that hit top 3 on bloodlust almost ever season the only reason why wow died was because OF CATA NOT PVP ARE YOU SERIOUSLY BRINGING THAT UP LOL? The only thing keeping up wow IS PVP cata killed wow not its pvp dont type anymore your seriously ignorant

Name 1 game of this sort that has ever been a lasting success.....90% of the time the hardcore no lifers grind up very fast and gank noobs all day causing most of the population to leave after a month or 2. Its fun for like 2 days, but creating a game that will inevitably kill its own revenue stream (noobs) is a very stupid business plan these days.

Arena is actually the best form of pvp since it ideally places everyone on a level playing field and lets whoever has the better skill, timing, knowledge and teamwork win. Individual skill has a major impact on the outcome.

Open pvp can only have lasting appeal if there is zero grind and everyone has equal power at level 1.

wow your bad as the 2012 conspirators

First of all SC2 is not an mmo. RTS games like that can support balanced and competetive pvp. MMOs cannot. The top of wows pvp is notorious for win trading, exploiting match making rating etc. Hell anything 'competetive' in MMOs gets hacked look at all the top wow guilds that got banned for a week for exploiting.

It would be nice to rated warzones in tor where full premades can go against others for loot. Arena though no thank you. It isn't fun having win trading, getting ganked by some OP combo of the month, exploiting match making systems....then to top it all off having to balance the rest of the MMO around said pvp when in reality arena goers represent a very small % of an MMO's playerbase. Blizz admit arenas were the worst thing to ever happen to wow, they would ruin tor as well as essentially they are mechanically very similar.

exactly it shows who is truly good instead of having a gankfest on noobs causing the death of the game cause in that world what is there to prove?

no if a person was good in wow he could do it wow also PERMA BANS win traders PERMA you got your info from the wrong place. Stop talking about hacks it dosent exist in wow and neither will it in swtor they have a team that looks over that.

To be honest, I'm thinking you're the ignorant one

BTW, The pvp this game supports wouldn't work in arenas, nor would it support any small 5 or less group vs group pvp.... Have you even thought about more than "getting to the top"?

You shouldn't need a ladder system to rank yourself, and arena pvp is not real pvp.