Scoundrels/Operatives ridculously OP.

So if the Operative crits on every attack from his opener onward he can get you down to 20%? Wow, news at 11. It's a burst class doing burst damage. Operatives don't have much outside of that burst being the only class with no knockback, gap closer, or pull. Furthermore, Operatives still can't take down tanks and guarded players. If anything the PvP damage pendulum in this game swings towards survivability over burst, but that's only when people actually play their class roles. If you're a low level player then yes, you will be killed inside the opener sometimes considering you have about 4k less hp than a geared level 50 and 0 expertise. That's BW's fault for not implementing level brackets. But I can tell you at geared level 50 play Operatives don't make much of a dent in group situations if the opposing team is organized. They have that opening burst, which fills the resolve bar btw, then not much else. Nerfing that burst would make the spec totally useless and you would just see every Operative respec healer (which is probably what people want, actually).

Both the KD from shoot first, and the "sap" fill the resolve bar to full making following it up with any other stun/snare etc useless...

So even if you pop up at 20% if the first thing you do is snare them and move away... enjoy watching them attempt to finish you off outside of 10m and completely unable to catch you.

Baddies are going to die regardless, you just happen to die faster to a "rogue"... there is no surprise there.

If in a warfront any "rogue" can pull off his opener more than once a life then you failed... even as a healer as soon as I see a stealthy the first thing I do is dot them.

Um... Pass? The game is about team work, not fancy skills that cheapen the sport.

Oh, and yeah, balancing a class around Huttball = lol.

Considering I'm a somewhat decently geared 50... now I can maybe see tanks having an easier time of it since most of the damage is kinetic and when you get a few good shield blocks in... otherwise? Bye bye.

Please tell me you're the Mesk with the butterfly tattoo that played on Archimonde. Lulz.

You are basically the only class that can eliminate the flag carrier next to the line. I play a tank SW almost 18k health, I saw it go down to 40% in an instant.

Honestly I don't know what to say, people say nerf the opener that pretty much decides the outcome of a fight and that's wrong, I agree with that nerf. But you say you aren't much good without the opener. So yeah, I don't know what to believe. That the class actually sucks or that the people playing it do, and put all their money on the opener, cause let's face it, when you have an ability that is that good, you depend on it to finish the job, outside of that your field of expertise regarding the class fails. Simply put I can't decide if it's a L2P issue or not since I fought a few scoundrels who, even out of stealth damaged me badly.

The most important aspect in huttball is PASSING and getting in position for quick passes/goals.

As a stealther you can get into position and destealth to receive a pass and be totally usefull....more so in that role than anyone who cant stealth.

When the opposition has the ball you spend time trolling your own defensive line and making sure enemies who are in good positon to receive passes die horrible deaths via your insane burst dmg combo and you have the best CC in the game to use directly against carriers and their support.

the main thing however is the passing//receiving game, doing it yourself and denying it to the other team = winning huttball 99% of the time.

I pass all the time - to my premade's Assassin, who has far better mobility, CC, and utility than I do. Considering Huttball accounts for the vast majority of PvP on most PvP servers...yeah, it's a good idea to make sure classes are competitive in that setting. Right now, the only thing damage-spec Operatives are good for is assassinating the ball carrier before they can pass. If you neuter that damage, they need something else.

Again, I pass all the time, to people more suited. And I don't have an insane burst damage combo - I'm Medicine spec, it's much better for group settings. Concealment is only useful for playing Rambo.

This.

Oh wait, Bioware already knows it.

I expect no change. just being realistic.

when you go from hitting ppl for 7k on an opener to only hitting them for 2.5-3.5k out of combat you feel like your "crap out of stealth". do not be sucked into this ridiculous argument. Compared to 7k, yes, their dmg out of stealth is garbage. Compared to all other dmg in the game... their dmg out of stealth is in-line.