Scoundrels/Operatives ridculously OP.

When unavoidable two-three shotting is involved, there is no skill on either side. This invalidates ALL your questions. You can be as skilled as you want, but if you can't do anything, its game over, even if you are a world champion. I'm not asking them to be nerfed into the ground, but it should be reasonable at least.

ops/scoundrel opener gives full white resolve bar on open. this does little to help you though, when over 80% of your health is gone in the time it takes to respond and cc-break (should you be lucky enough to have that off cooldown).

further, resolve does not respond to snares, roots. So if the operative opens on you... takes 80% of your life... and then snares you to get easy access to your back... you are dead. It may have felt like a stun-lock...it wasn't...but that really doesn't matter. the dmg was done.

broken class is broken.

I'm not sure it even matters on how much resolve you get if your dead or nearly dead by the time you stand up from the intial KD.

I was being sarcastic because the kid accused me of being a liar, yet doesn't know what he's talking about.

Sounds a lot like most of the uninformed QQ here... HRMMMMMMMM...

Usually in a group, and considering that the sap strategy WORKED and worked well as it kept my from interrupting his stealth, yeeeah, sorry, but I'm thinking that you're just not using it right. Plus even if I DoT them, the vanish usually lasts long enough for them to get their attack off. Also I really don't care if its on a 2 minute cooldown, no other 2 minute cooldown kills people quite like that. Not to mention 2 minutes can be pretty short at times.

If you're not lying about the opener filling resolve, then yeah, this guy I ran into, the only 50 scoundrel I've seen so far, has a working strategy. Pop sneak, move into the guys in the back that aren't at threat of AoE, and begin rapid murder. I'll complement him on knowing what he's doing in that regard if nothing else.

That's why people need to run with their defense cool down always up. Its not a reactive it a proactive. That negates a lot of our damage.

The burst is incredible...best in the game, hands down. But if you nerf that, Operatives/Scoundrels need something else in return, because we're garbage in Huttball right now. The most important tools in Huttball are gap closers (like force leap), combat sprints, grapples/pulls, and knockbacks. Operatives have none of those, so we have far less utility in the most-played PvP map.

Was that sarcastic? How exactly do you run around with a "cooldown always up"?

Ok... burst DPS on a Full PVP geared 50 Smugg vs Full PVP geared 50 Merc (15.5k hp)...

unmitigated burst of about 19k with crits.. (enough to take 13-14k during the knockdown though 36% dmg mitigation)

Actually the knockdown is probably the most broken thing about scoundrel//operative melee ganking, the damage isnt so bad by itself...its the length of time they get to attack a helpless target during the knockdown without fear of retaliation which is the most broken....they they vanish though DOT's...and do it again.

I think unstealthing needs a global timer with vanish... so they are vulnerable for 10-15 seconds after opening.

BW should also Fix the knockdown animation so it takes ~1 second to be back fighting... then revisit the equation.

OP... without changes, yes...... they in desperate need of some tweaking to SOME aspects of the burst/CC/Vanish equation...

Stealth that resembles Combat cloaking in Stark Trek online would be prefect... need 20 seconds to recloak ...and cant cloak for 20 seconds after taking damage.

i.e as a melee operative or scoundrel you might gank me...but doing so if im not alone should get you killed by the 3 others sitting at the cap.
the "get out of jail free" aspect is whats most broken right now..

Honestly, the only thing scoundrels / ops are good for is gibbing lowbies, anyone with any pvp gear will just break the opening stun and knock them away or heal through their entire burst with 1 biochem medpack / pvp healing consumable.

get level 50, get some gear, laugh at how useless scoundrels / ops are