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Why this game will end up like rift.

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Why this game will end up like rift.

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MrLantz
01.04.2012 , 11:16 AM | #201
Quote: Originally Posted by Bigdazz View Post
Just gotta point out that 1 day is 24 hours.

If your friend did it in 25 hours it took him 2 days.
Oh, so 25 hours = 48 hours (2 days). Thanks for the heads up. My math skills must not be up to par anymore these days

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Wynternight
01.04.2012 , 11:18 AM | #202
Quote: Originally Posted by Jongar View Post
First I'd like to make it clear that my intention of this post is not to bash the game, but to state the obvious, and maybe things that players are not aware of.

I've been playing the game for like 7 days now, my character is level 36 at the moment. having finished all quests of Darmund Kaas, Tatooine, and many quests here and there, completed my legacy quest line and going further with the story quest line.

Having said this, it is clear that I have played the game, and my judgement is not out of nothing.

Secondly, I would like to mention what is good about this game, and why this good part turns really bad later on:

1- NPC conversations in quests: this starts as a nice feature where a player would enjoy the story and feel part of the game, however, after level 20 it gets tedious, uninteresting and very tiring to skip though, especially after the 100th quest you do, bioware shouldn't have put a conversation in every quest, just the important ones. Tedious for you, I quie enjoy them.

2- Waiting for players in quest conversations: again the same thing, it gets nice in the beginning, but then really really tiring later on. not that social items are any good, but when you quest with people and you do want to do that part, and then someone wants to listen to everything the NPC says...it burns my nerves. The don't group. I like to see what my fellow players are going to do.

Lastly, what really is very bad about this game:

1- No Dual Spec: when Rift was released, we could have 4 different character specs, then they added the 5th. When this game was released we have only one character spec, this has got to be the biggest joke from bio-ware, even a free to play games have dual specs now. Whilst I wouldn't mind it it's not a deal breaker for me.

2- Flashpoints: Flashpoints are a joke, once you die at a boss fight, you do not get to loot anything. Of course now some boss fights are rediculously strong for a same-level group, especially if you get a noob tank.
I've died in boss fights and never had an issue looting.
3-PVP: PVP in swotr is only 8v8 in all battlegrounds, all classes have 5 kinds of crowd control abilities, so basically the team that uses their CCs last wins. Not to mention in the ball arena, Jedi and Sith are completely ridiculous with their push backs, and they're the only ones who carry the ball anyway.Haven't done any pvp so no comment.

4- companions: useless at level 50 and in flashpoints. Can't do quests without them, so you have to keep at least one companion with you. Having five companions that you need to gear, work on their affection, just to turn out useless end game is kinda of...useless I say.Not having any issues with this so I can't agree.

5- Crafting (Crew-Skill): super, duper useless, the epics you craft are bound on pickup, you basically cannot sell anything useful. Non-profitable crafting, recipes drop rate is very rare, missions take too long to finish beyond 260 points of skill. So far I've sold only one crafted item out of like 10, so I didn't bother at all, since all crafted gear is literally useless even when leveling up, since you can get really better gear just by doing quests.I'm getting money and items off my crafting so I disagree with this.

6- Walking: all the unnecessary walking this game has, from spaceport to ship, from ship to ship controls, then back out of the ship, to the elevator to the spaceport to outside, not to mention all the useless uninteresting cut scenes that pop every time the ship flies. Why can't we just hit one button from the spaceport and enter the ship? why do I have to WALK, not even use the mount to do it?This just suggests a short attention span to me.

7- Content: the content is a joke, people have already finished everything in 15 days of game play, one WoW expansion has more content than this entire game, not to mention the file size difference.This is nonsensical. People rushed to 50 and wonder why it's loney at the top. I'll repeat for the short attention span crowd: it's abrand new game, give it time. If you have the atention span of a gnat then that's your fault, not that of BW.

8- Targetting issues, Lag, super bugs: all of these just sway the players from continueing to play the game, in my opinion I should not continue subscribing to this game anymore, in fact I'm going to cancel now.
Sorry you're unhappy but this is for the best.
ADDED (edited):
9- No macroing: I'm already at a stage where I have only 3 or 4 empty slots in the quickbar, and still did not reach lvl 50, not to mention that not all of them are bound to a key, oh and i'm talking about my 4 quickbars.I imagine macros are coming. Basically you can't one button push your way to victory so you're upset.
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All of this sums up at how bad this game really is, story lines? good finished in 15 days...then what? No, this sums up why you're unhappy. I'm pleased as punch and enjoying every minute.

Bioware could have done something better with this game, but no. I believe they should have made this a single player game, in fact, this game is an exact copy of Knights of the old Republic games, it is just that now you have other people playing around you, and you can see them and play with them.

Now let me ask a final question...What is an MMO? a massive multiplayer online game right? where on earth does SWTOR fit that description if groups are made out of 4 players, PVP of 8, and the biggest raid is only 16 players...how can this be massively multiplayer online game? where's the massive in a maximum of 16 players playing together? and of 4 questing together? and of 8 PVPing together? where? even battlefield has more player count than this...this is just the biggest joke on earth.Looks like an mmo to me. I've grouped more in three weeks here then I did my whole time in Rift which I started playing one month to the day after launch and played up until ToR came out.

And this concludes my whining.
Well goodbye and good luck. I can't say you'll be missed. All people like you do is add negativity to the game and the boards.
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Bigaus
01.04.2012 , 11:19 AM | #203
Quote: Originally Posted by Thiussat View Post
Wrong. Rift is losing pop all the time. I was last there about two weeks ago (I left for SWTOR) and people were complaining about how Sanctum and Meridian are ghost towns. There are even threads on the forums with people asking for server mergers.

There are only 3 PvP servers that have any activity at all (Deepstrike, Seastone and Dayblind). All the rest are complete ghost towns. The PvE servers probably aren't much better.

Some of the best PvP guilds in rift completely left the game for SWTOR. That's one of the reasons I came over -- I didn't want to be doing warfronts against total noobs or people I had never heard of. I dunno if they are still here or left or what, but Rift is losing pop.
PvP servers are usually the first to die...
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darthmazley
01.04.2012 , 11:20 AM | #204
Quote: Originally Posted by Bigdazz View Post
Just gotta point out that 1 day is 24 hours.

If your friend did it in 25 hours it took him 2 days.
oh i am sorry...didnt know i had to be exact with you.
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Jarlathe
01.04.2012 , 11:25 AM | #205
Quote: Originally Posted by Napalmbrain View Post
Spoiled much?

Never enough is it...

Yeah, I guess I am spoiled if I expect a game I paid for to be working and have basic features in it. Silly me, I was doing it wrong.
. All hail the hypnodot.

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Baizak
01.04.2012 , 11:25 AM | #206
Quote: Originally Posted by Jongar View Post
First I'd like to make it clear that my intention of this post is not to bash the game, but to state the obvious, and maybe things that players are not aware of
So you start off with a lie. You say you are not going to bash the game, yet you pretty much just bash the game. Saying something is a joke is not constructive feedback.
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Waypoc
01.04.2012 , 11:25 AM | #207
Excellent post.

Spot on.

Thanks for clearly outlining the major issues.
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sosolidshoe
01.04.2012 , 11:26 AM | #208
Quote: Originally Posted by blackcerberus View Post
people like me jump from crap to crap till finding a game that is worth a damn
guess I will jump from this crap too
Except the point is that you never do find anything "worth a damn", you just blow into each game in turn and ruin it for those who do enjoy those games by whinging the loudest on the forums, until either the devs listen to you and change stuff and you leave anyway, or because you turn the forum into a pile of barely-legible trash that's a real pain to read through.

So yes, please, "jump from this crap", as soon as possible, and don't feel the need to spend the remainder of your free month on the forums either.

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Nidien
01.04.2012 , 11:36 AM | #209
Quote: Originally Posted by Jongar View Post
Ahh the fanbois, I like how you guys react to reality, calling me stupid and everything without realizing I have played like 8 MMOs.
and....the...point...is?

So you jump from MMO to MMO and never find anything worth your play time....ever stop to think for 2 seconds that MMO's might not be for you? probably not..thinking is hard.

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Thradar
01.04.2012 , 11:37 AM | #210
Quote: Originally Posted by Jongar View Post
First I'd like to make it clear that my intention of this post is not to bash the game, but to state the obvious
If it's "obvious" it doesn't need to be stated.

Just sayin'.