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PvP Healing, by far the worst experience I've ever had as a gamer

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PvP Healing, by far the worst experience I've ever had as a gamer

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Slickerpunk
01.04.2012 , 05:26 AM | #441
50 OPerative Healer here with 10% expertise. I can easily survive to most things even level 50 with pvp gear (even concealment ops - trinket their ambuish + vanish). It is when you get zerged by 2/3 of their team b/c they finally realize the person doing 300k+ heals every game not letting people die is why they are losing.


Quiet simply, you're doing it wrong.




HoT yourself up fully and spam your shield on cooldown (you get +healing to yourself if speced) and LoS / kite melee. If things get hairy, vanish. It helps to have a tank putting guard on you as well.

The only real complaint I have as a Op healer is we get no healing tricks or bells and whistles like other healing classes get (Sorcerer Life Grip - Mercenary Earth Shield). All we have are our hots and vanish.

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Rookni
01.04.2012 , 05:29 AM | #442
I had a lvl 29 merc keeping my lvl 11!! assassin alive while I killed a lvl 50 trooper.
[SUPERIOR] FLUFFY KILLER BUNNIES

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senatorsson
01.04.2012 , 05:31 AM | #443
When you think of Star Wars in terms of an MMO, I would think that most player Vs. player combat would take place in open world pvp, IMO I think world pvp needs to be the focus of the game other wise you are bound to have problems with pvp in a BG (warzone) type situation. World pvp solves everything, let the players have at each other, no holding back abilities, like the game was meant to be played.

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senatorsson
01.04.2012 , 05:33 AM | #444
dude ur a healer and u can disapear

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CptBrit
01.04.2012 , 05:34 AM | #445
Quote: Originally Posted by Rookni View Post
I had a lvl 29 merc keeping my lvl 11!! assassin alive while I killed a lvl 50 trooper.
Pure win

I haven't read all the thread but I'd glad someone who played a Resto Druid in WoW isn't finding healing as easy in this.

Resto Druids in WSG pugs were unreal:

Get Flag.
Cat Form.
Travel Form once outside.
Bear Form if you get hit.
Health Drops below 70%, Rejuv and Regrowth.
Bear Form.
Rinse and repeat.

I actually stopped playing WSG because of the Resto Druids lol
Sa'rahi Sheph'erd - The Mercenary | Marxon Sheph'erd - The Guardian
Tae'Ruk Sheph'erd - The Juggernaut | Mysha Sheph'erd - The Sage
Leona Sheph'erd - The Assassin | Temo'rel Sheph'erd - The Vanguard
Mykael Sheph'erd - The Operative | Lel'Liana Sheph'erd - The Gunslinger

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CapuchinSeven
01.04.2012 , 05:35 AM | #446
Quote: Originally Posted by Velsix View Post
...and heals do nothing.
You people crack me up, honestly, crack me up.

Quote: Originally Posted by Velsix View Post
I'm not a professional game developer or anything, but I have a hard time understanding some of these issues this game is having. IAren't the alpha and beta tests for a reason?
Did it ever even cross your mind that you might just not be that good? You can't make it work so "omg we r in teh payed beta"?
I know chop-knees.

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maxdaboss
01.04.2012 , 07:00 AM | #447
I play a level 29 sage and even though I lack a lot of higher level skills I think healing is totally fine.
The UI is horrible but I'm usually able to gather 6-8 medals in any warzone. I can kill most people in 1vs1 (except for operatives but that's a different story) and while I can't keep most people alive when they are getting ganked I can usually buy them enough time to run for cover or for backup.

SWTOR doesn't encourage tabbing through allies and spamming heals.
What works for me is DPS on key targets, throw heals when I understand it will make a difference, CC other healers or interrupt them and care about mission objectives.

While healing is more challenging I also feel it is a boon that it is so easy to regenerate while out of combat. As a sage I have 600 force so I can go all out for a minute or so before I run out of resources. It's very difficult to die because you are out of "mana" (or any resource you depend on).

Also, buy pvp medpacs and use them (not when 5 people are beating you to a pulp, what are you expecting?). They make a difference.

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chungkuo
01.04.2012 , 08:39 AM | #448
As someone who played an Ironbreaker in WAR, I'm kind of surprised there aren't more PvP tanks in this game. They are a healer's best friend when played properly. I'm guessing a lot more players came to swtor from WoW than WAR, and people aren't really taking advantage of guard and taunt yet because they aren't used to them.

If you are a healer in a WZ, please announce it in /ops, because just mousing over you and seeing "Sage" doesn't tell me if you are dps or heals. If I notice a healer I stick to him like glue (unless he is an idiot running around the map and not paying attention to objectives, in which case he's useless anyway). Me keeping him alive is better than me trying kill mans.

Also, I know the UI sucks for healing but go watch this:

http://torwars.com/2011/11/28/video-...-focus-target/

You need to turn on your focus frame and then set keybinds for it if you want to pvp heal effectively. Learning how to use these is beneficial for pve as well, but it is essential for pvp. Set your tank as your focus target and then you can use a modifier key that will direct anything you do with that modifier pressed at your focus target. This way when your tank is getting low you can just hit, I dunno, left-alt and spam a couple heals at him without having to find him and click on him.

No tanks? You can use your focus frame on yourself, for when you are heal tanking the entire enemy team.

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Jaidan
01.05.2012 , 11:20 PM | #449
sorry to anyone who thinks it matters...

but posting your wow arena rating does not prove you are a good player, or that you even remotely know what you're talking about.

it just proves you once jumped on the bandwagon.

don't feel bad, I was there once, and I too once thought what I did in that game made me an expert on playing a particular role... then I remembered that there were other games, with other mechanics, and that being decent in one game does not make you an expert.

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Solidfinger
01.05.2012 , 11:27 PM | #450
To the OP,

I understand how you feel. I come from old games with pvp that i used to enjoy to the max.Healers will always make pvp more exciting because it adds more of a feeling of strategy then just burning this guy down because he is the squishiest. If i wanted to just kill someone **** I'll go play Call of Duty. I would also ***** about the tanks taunts doing something else rather then reducing damage? Why not make the player target you for 1 to 2 seconds, it would be more ideal, make the tanks more likeable and makes more sense when your trying to keep people off your teammates.