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Flashpoints too long for 99%


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RedhookAle
01.03.2012 , 02:16 PM | #61
Some of RIFTs expert dungeons where lengthy. Deepstrike Mines and Iron Tombs come to mind.

Much longer than most of the flashpoints ive experienced so far.
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universeman
01.03.2012 , 03:41 PM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by dchero View Post
A) 99%? Really? you can't come up with a better arguement? so you make up false numbers?

B) "lost half bliz subs"? You just like to make up stuff don't you? Until recently Bliz has not lost subs and the lose is not due to a 7 year old game being bad, it's due to competition slowly chipping away at a 7 year old game .. they still, as of the last posted number, have 10mil + active subs ... and I don't think swtor has broke 2mil yet.
Unfortunately, this forum is littered with people who exaggerate to make a point. If they dumb down and/or shorten the flashpoints, some of the "fun" will be taken out of them. 1 hour 30 min is just fine (maybe a bit long for some). There should be some longer flashpoints for those who want a deep/involved story to drive through. The shorter ones are no better than a typical HEROIC mission, which there are plenty of already.

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Restepor
01.03.2012 , 04:16 PM | #63
Nope, I like the length, also you shouldn't really take you over an hour, unless your doing something really hard.

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ratfanatic
01.03.2012 , 04:49 PM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by Letsplayrift View Post
so i did normal directive 7 and it took like an hour and a half, guess you are following the cata model that lost half of blizz's subs
That's funny because even after Blizz shortened their dungeon lengths they continued to lose subs so I think you need to revisit your theory.

I agree they can be long if you wipe a lot. But I like the difficulty of the dungeons. It makes you feel like you accomplished something and it makes for better players.
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steelsaver
01.04.2012 , 04:25 AM | #65
Not that the flashpoints are too long. but the fact that to progress throguh them you usually have to die and by dying your equipment breaks causing you to have to pay for repairs. now does anyone else think its ridiculous for my repair bill to be 32,000 credits? i mean thats a lil extreme for dying 10 times. especially when it takes me longer to farm that much gold er credits than it does to run the flashpoint. reduce the repair cost by 50% or so to make it reasonable

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CastorKrieg
01.04.2012 , 04:37 AM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by Lokiliesmith View Post
90 minutes is not a long time.
It's 90 minutes that require your constant attention. You can't do anything else. A lot of us have spouses/gf/etc., and believe it, sometimes you just cannot sit at the computer for 90 minutes without paying attention to anything else.

Main problem with Flashpoints is they feel like Aion - **** takes forever to die. I guess when ppl willstart to CC and FOCUS TARGET things will go faster.

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Vankris
01.04.2012 , 04:38 AM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by AceM View Post
Yeah right.. maybe if you don't listen to any of the conversations and you have a team of high level people that know exactly what they are doing.

It took me around 2 hours the first time to do Black Talon
i wouldn't have it any other way

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headhuntar
01.04.2012 , 06:00 AM | #68
no challenge = no fun

if everything took 10 minutes i would quit

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Rinkitink
01.04.2012 , 06:05 AM | #69
What did you want it to be like? A quest?

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universeman
01.04.2012 , 10:23 AM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by CastorKrieg View Post
It's 90 minutes that require your constant attention. You can't do anything else. A lot of us have spouses/gf/etc., and believe it, sometimes you just cannot sit at the computer for 90 minutes without paying attention to anything else.

Main problem with Flashpoints is they feel like Aion - **** takes forever to die. I guess when ppl willstart to CC and FOCUS TARGET things will go faster.
This is why they need some long ones and some short ones. The long ones to satisfy those who want a deep/interesting story. The short ones for those who just want to get it out of the way (if a deep/interesting story can be included, then bonus points!).

Personally, I would be GREATLY disappointed if they removed (and/or stopped creating) the longer flashpoints. And just to make things clear, I have 3 spouses and 4 gf's, etc.