Cancel your subscription if your unhappy with PVP

1. could be your computer, only experience lag on the fleet?
2. opinion although I dislike huttball, and they'll add more
3. RvR is totally optional and not mandatory not even on the list of things needing improvement
4. QQing trust me Sages and Sorcs are very squishy because I am a sorc, and dps class can take us down easily
5. bleh you get some gear at 20 and in between to 40 and all the way upto 50, sounds good to me, again they'll add more later
6. they can fix that with lvl 50 brackets which will probably coming, or something close to it.
7. don't like the look of gear? then go to the modding side of things,k yes theres more game systems than just PvP.
8. not sure what this means? talking about the warzones?
9. yeah remind me what happens in uh say mid to late december? holidays? Family? vacations? no work? give them time like I said. max of 6 months and see where it goes from there, I know i'm staying my 3 1/2 years atleast, I didn't spend all my time waiting just to quit and give up

Looks like a lot of people don't understand that they didn't put brackets in for launch so that those who hit 50 first wouldn't be stuck with nothing to do pvp wise.

Now that there's a substantial number of people at 50, they're going to be putting the 50 bracket in soon, see how that works?

Beyond the OPness of 50s, which will be soon 'fixed' with the brackets, the pvp in this game is great, certainly far better than the FotM and broken class BS of WoW. The games encourage pvp first of all, something you don't see in WoW, and they encourage teamwork.

They're adding more warzones with the first big patch as well.

That said, please, for the 0.05% of you who are coming to the forums to cry about how much you hate this, please do cancel- we really don't need people who can't wait more than a week without an issue being fixed before screaming bloody murder. Or, go and keep making threads about how the .5 second delay on project being the reason why Republic always loses- and we'll keep laughing at you and all the other pve carebears who whine instead of getting better.

I really, really don't want to see WoW again- as much as it's fun knowing as a healer I can fend off three dps from the top pvp guild on my server without dropping below 95% hp- I'd rather have a challenge in pvp then be a god by mashing two buttons.

Years in production cause it had to be, lets admit its a massive game and daniel erickson said that they've actually been done with the game long before release and have been working on expansions/post launch content. Every MMO needs time because, well MMO's are never done and this is probably true, because Bioware labeled their product as a story driven MMO thats fully voiced over with cinematic cut-scenes and fully fleshed out companions. Bioware has delivered that extremely well, and another true point, if you're a hardcore PvPer why would you buy a Story driven MMO? they've made a great base for the game all they need to improve is PvP, Bugs (which they're obviously doing), and customizable UI, which no doubt is coming in the future. And they can expand on tons of things, Main story lines, Operations (they are), crew skills, PvP, Planets, flashpoints (they are), space (which they are), and multiplayer aspects. I've put about around 200 hours into this game and am still overwhelmed with things to do, PvP, space (havent done much yet), and my quest log is full with tons of other quests that i still can accept, lvl up my crew skills and obtain gear and get starship upgrades get that 1.5mil speeder, etc. sorry got OT anyway you're very true

this pretty much, like I said give Bioware some time

Unless the devs say in plain English what they plan for PvP to rememedy this damn awful situation, then I will cancel my sub also before the first payment is due. Which means they have about two weeks to open their gobs and actually same something!

And I want to here details, not "we have plans " bull5hit.

Pay close attention to CW, if you and the opposing team at the opening of the match capture a gun at the same time, every single time the Empire gun will have 10 pts off your ship, even if yours starts to fire first.

I will cancel if they don't inform me of their plans for PVP in the immediate future.

I enjoy the PVP. I can handle the lag as the game just came out, and it will be fixed. I have yet to experience Ilum (Currently level 47), but hoping on my server it's actual PVP and not objective trading.

BUT, 3 warzones is not enough to keep me interested. I don't like to PVE but I understand the majority of the market does...so i can deal with it being a PVE focused game. That being said, there needs to be more support than a WoW type approach (1 battleground each expansion IE 1 a year).

We'll see, as of now I'm still subbed, but if I don't see any type of plans by the end of my free 30, I will cancel and come back when new PVP stuff is added.

I didn't cancel my subscription, because world pvp kills from tatooine onwards gives me a sweet evil grin and a soft feeling in my tummy....

This is just dumb and wrong on so many levels it hurts but I'll endure the stupid and clear it up for you...replying to your replies.


1. My computer can host this game, I don't lag on imperial fleet and server response time while participating in PvP is a non-debatable known issue sorry chump.

2. It's not an opinion, it's a known fact and the reason why proper PvP games don't limit their PvP to the crap Bioware has is because the whole reason people PvP is to be better than others. One easy example is...when you have all the gear, levels, valor...etc the only reason to queue PvP is to demonstrate you are better than others (aka killing them) and yet there is no basic murder ball or premade vs. premade (there are many examples of more popular designs). I won't even go into detail about how objective points are rewarded causes bad PvP habits for the sake of points.

3. RvR motivation problems means there is no reason to actually do RvR, it has nothing to do with being mandatory or not it's the fact it's useless by design.

4. You are a newb crying about class imbalance whereas I was comparing faction class balance...aka certain trooper skills take longer to proc vs. BH equivalent...the list goes on. No game has perfect class balance but most games at least balance it per faction.

5. "they'll add more later" yeah too bad the game is released NOW. Expertise ruined gear progression, expertise ruined bolster, the fact they actually had gear for level 10,15, 25, 30, 35, 45...etc in beta yet removed it was a poor design CHOICE by the devs. It was intentional they limit the PvP gear because they felt their crappy PvE story rewards weren't being utilized enough so they screwed the PvP players for those level ranges.

6. Level 50 bracket is ignorant and stupid, it's expertise which causes the problems, and it’s premades vs. pugs that is the problems not to mention level 50 brackets would cause a MASSIVE queue time increase. Stupid idea from stupid people.

7. Guess what, you still keep trying to inject PvE into this and its 100% troll but I'll bite anyway. Hey did you know that many of the CE, social and dark/light side gear are not even complete sets? Yeah they have lots of showy gear but since they didn't actually add it all it still looks like clown crap. That means there is only raid gear and PvP gear both which are dual-crap. Spandex pants with big thick chest peices is never cool.

8. Of course you wouldn't understand because you are the random guy who gets owned. Warzones are 8 vs. 8 yet you can only queue 4...that's what it means. In other words "forced pug-play," any PvP that increases "random factors" is fail PvP and the random PuG factor is damn significant. There is an entire guild on my server that queues up and afks on the sidelines who haven't been perma-banned yet...that's a big deal to PvPers which could be avoided with proper pre-made queuing.

9. How about you pay for my sub and my guilds subs and all my guildies who chose not to even attempt this awful waste while they "improve" the game then? Yeah didn't think so, how about you wait until Dec 2012 and figure out which servers will merge due to low population.



"Just pay Bioware and wait for fixes" theory has got to be the dumbest theory I have ever heard, how about Bioware makes the game free until they "fix" their problems if you guys keep claiming everything is just a minor easily solvable "bug" instead of conceptual flaws.

I am about to cancel and not just because of PvP, which I loved to death at the start of the game (obveuly lots of testing and it did payed off because it was good) but now that I am lvl 50 it is a stinking pile of @#$% it also shows that testing really was never done for higher level content.

But that is not only why, I like PvE so I tried that and Flashpoints are not bad at all, but I see this endless string of Looking for Tank/healers and it is no go because then game again is not well thought out. Players are not specing as these and it is killing yet another part of the game. I even respeced to healer and all was well, then go back to DPS (my prefered playstyle) but the game is made to make respecing HURT, and hurt it does, I can not longer afford to respec and again the game is broken...