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01.03.2012 , 08:46 PM | #501
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01.03.2012 , 08:49 PM | #502
Quote: Originally Posted by Vislo View Post
Unsubbing on a large scale this early on will HURT Bioware rather than HELP bioware, some of you were testers, alright. But since you were testers you've had the time to decide whether or not you're going to get a STORY BASED MMO and of course have had the time to probably PvP yourself. No who am I kidding if you're unsubbed just because PvP then you've definitely PvP'd during the beta. Bioware said this game would be profitable with only 500K subs and if its below that for the FIRST month then the PRODUCTION of this game will SLOW DOWN. Now i'm pretty sure from all these PvP threads Bioware is well aware of the PvP situation. but sorry folks PvP comes 2nd to a story based MMO. Lets be honest give this game a chance and it will improve or just leave now and wait longer. Another honest thing is that I don't love the PvP in this game, I think its "ok", but has tons of room for improvement.
Bioware is not your friend you brand loyal fool. The only thing that hurt Bioware was Bioware, if people unsub by the masses it's never their fault. The game is a buggy POS it's that simple, it's 2012 and it runs like a 2004 game and the fact is people don't want to wait 4 years for the game to get up to speed when GW2 is already more polished in Alpha testing and WoW already has it's bugs sorted.

It doesn't matter if they marketed it as a story based MMO, they said there was PvP and it sucks so if the PvP crowd goes too bad.
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matthrms
01.03.2012 , 08:51 PM | #503
Quote: Originally Posted by TheDragonsBalls View Post
It would be stupid if low levels could own level 50's in PvP gear
Your're right, it would be stupid. Whats more stupid however, is putting lower levels in the same warzones against lvl 50s with pvp gear.

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Vislo
01.03.2012 , 08:56 PM | #504
Quote: Originally Posted by ShottyTheShotgun View Post
Bioware is not your friend you brand loyal fool. The only thing that hurt Bioware was Bioware, if people unsub by the masses it's never their fault. The game is a buggy POS it's that simple, it's 2012 and it runs like a 2004 game and the fact is people don't want to wait 4 years for the game to get up to speed when GW2 is already more polished in Alpha testing and WoW already has it's bugs sorted.

It doesn't matter if they marketed it as a story based MMO, they said there was PvP and it sucks so if the PvP crowd goes too bad.
ok number 1, WoW has had what, 7 years on the market? swtor a couple of weeks? I mean people gave WoW a chance, and it's PvP was horrible, and look at it now its better. It's because they have enough production $$$ to do so and on a quick basis. Trust me i'm pretty sure GW2 will have its faults and everyone is hyping it like they did this game, the problem is, is that the MMO community gets overhyped about every next MMO out there that they forget about the "Launch" and growth time for a game. this is a MMO it builds with a subscription base, its not a RPG and never gets fixed. you take away that subscription base well then it is a RPG and never gets fixed.
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ShottyTheShotgun
01.03.2012 , 08:56 PM | #505
Quote: Originally Posted by matthrms View Post
Your're right, it would be stupid. Whats more stupid however, is putting lower levels in the same warzones against lvl 50s with pvp gear.
The only stupid thing Bioware did was adding a thing called "expertise." It's not level 50s it's the level 50s with all the expertise gear making the game absolute cack. Progression for the sake of progression at the cost of imbalance is poor design.
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ShottyTheShotgun
01.03.2012 , 08:59 PM | #506
Quote: Originally Posted by Vislo View Post
ok number 1, WoW has had what, 7 years on the market? swtor a couple of weeks? I mean people gave WoW a chance, and it's PvP was horrible, and look at it now its better. It's because they have enough production $$$ to do so and on a quick basis. Trust me i'm pretty sure GW2 will have its faults and everyone is hyping it like they did this game, the problem is, is that the MMO community gets overhyped about every next MMO out their that they forget about the "Launch" and growth time for a game. this is a MMO is builds with a subscription base, its not an RPG and never gets fixed. you take away that subscription base well then it is a RPG and never gets fixed.
#1 read what I said
#2 re-read but this time comprehend it...people won't invest 7 years again like they did in WoW get over it.
#3 I am in GW2 Alpha for over a year, it's bugs are not design flaws like this game...they are simple glitches that can be squashed out whereas this game is flawed on a number of levels between balance, warzone design, zero-motivation RvR...etc.

Nice try fool, dry hump your favourite brands all you want but the PvP crowd is unforgiving and more honest then you'll ever understand or can handle. If you don't like it just troll like the rest of the fanbois telling us to take a hike...when we do don't cry.
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Vislo
01.03.2012 , 09:10 PM | #507
Quote: Originally Posted by ShottyTheShotgun View Post
#1 read what I said
#2 re-read but this time comprehend it...people won't invest 7 years again like they did in WoW get over it.
#3 I am in GW2 Alpha for over a year, it's bugs are not design flaws like this game...they are simple glitches that can be squashed out whereas this game is flawed on a number of levels between balance, warzone design, zero-motivation RvR...etc.

Nice try fool, dry hump your favourite brands all you want but the PvP crowd is unforgiving and more honest then you'll ever understand or can handle. If you don't like it just troll like the rest of the fanbois telling us to take a hike...when we do don't cry.
ok cool #1 and 2 could have been just one thing, and cool story bro, thats what people in this beta said too, but look its at launch and theres bugs OH bugs at launch on a MMO omg I should QQ about it and then tell someone else who isn't QQing to start QQing, if you don't like the current PvP this much then you shouldn't even be posting in these forums, its not going to help if you start personally assaulting me through posts, talk about the game and how we could make it better. can't wait until the free month is up, damn, just throwing my 2 cents and you start making up posts about how another game is going to be better since you're in the beta then go off and tell me to go cry while you go play your FTP mmo. I mean if you like GW2 so much just play alpha and don't linger in these forums even if you have a week or so left, definitely if your going to act this way, we don't want you in the community, destructive not constructive
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Rendious
01.03.2012 , 09:16 PM | #508
And still yet.. 0 response from Bioware. No Customer feed back about these kind of issues. Hell they don't even have to necessarily agree with what many are saying, just acknowledge the fact that they are listening to their paying customers.

At least if they gave feed back on things rather if we like it or not we can determine from there if some of us are still interested in staying based on what BioWare wants for their game.
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Caeliux
01.03.2012 , 09:25 PM | #509
Quote: Originally Posted by Rendious View Post
And still yet.. 0 response from Bioware.
Wanna know why?

Cause all these forums are a bunch of babies, and their isn't enough baby powder.

Yea.
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ShottyTheShotgun
01.03.2012 , 09:37 PM | #510
Quote: Originally Posted by Vislo View Post
ok cool #1 and 2 could have been just one thing, and cool story bro, thats what people in this beta said too, but look its at launch and theres bugs OH bugs at launch on a MMO omg I should QQ about it and then tell someone else who isn't QQing to start QQing, if you don't like the current PvP this much then you shouldn't even be posting in these forums, its not going to help if you start personally assaulting me through posts, talk about the game and how we could make it better. can't wait until the free month is up, damn, just throwing my 2 cents and you start making up posts about how another game is going to be better since you're in the beta then go off and tell me to go cry while you go play your FTP mmo. I mean if you like GW2 so much just play alpha and don't linger in these forums even if you have a week or so left, definitely if your going to act this way, we don't want you in the community, destructive not constructive
I replied to your ignorance, you involved yourself to engage with me and now that you discovered you are a thin skined nancy who is preaching against a justified post reeking blind fanboism you want to tell me to stop? Boy you fail on many levels there, not to mention your horrbile pathetic excuse diarrhea of "blah blah blah only a couple weeks and bugs are normal" BS means nothing and shows you haven't read a single negative critique with any sense of comprehension or intentional lack of.

Let me summarize it for the slow minded...

Poor server performance is NOT a bug
Poor Warzone design is NOT a bug
Poor RvR motivation is NOT a bug
Poor faction class balancing is NOT a bug
Poor PvP gear progression is NOT a bug
Poor PvP gear optimization is NOT a bug
Poor PvP gear astetics is NOT a bug
Poor pre-made play is NOT a bug
Poor Bioware community communication is NOT a bug


So say what you will and pretend people are just whining about a "normal" cycle of MMO development. Maybe you are just a salesman dream ready to shell out money and time for the sake of sake or maybe you are just ignorant to the changing times of the MMO industry and not ready to accept there are higher expectations. Either way your undying loyalty is your problem.

The difference between success and failure...good companies change to the populations behaviour and are rewarded...bad companies try to change the population behaviour then attempt to re-define "success." Guess which one Bioware is?
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