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8 and 16 man raids share lockout?

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Diminish
01.03.2012 , 10:17 AM | #1
From what Ive seen, 8 and 16 man raids share the same lockout?
Can anyone confirm this? What would the be the point in doing 16 man?

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Olarid
01.03.2012 , 10:18 AM | #2
Quote: Originally Posted by Diminish View Post
From what Ive seen, 8 and 16 man raids share the same lockout?
Can anyone confirm this? What would the be the point in doing 16 man?
No shared lockout


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Trayne_
01.03.2012 , 10:56 AM | #3
8 and 16 man normal have the same lockout. 16 man drops more loot. Normal mode has destined loot though.
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Diminish
01.03.2012 , 11:32 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Trayne_ View Post
8 and 16 man normal have the same lockout. 16 man drops more loot. Normal mode has destined loot though.
Can anyone else confirm this? Having shared lockout on 8/16 raids is idiotic...

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DarthHendo
01.03.2012 , 11:55 AM | #5
I think they are shared. Im pretty sure that normal/hard/nightmare are diff lockouts tho.
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EFalconer
01.03.2012 , 12:06 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Diminish View Post
From what Ive seen, 8 and 16 man raids share the same lockout?
Can anyone confirm this? What would the be the point in doing 16 man?
They do, in fact, share lockouts. 16 man - which are tuned to a higher degree of difficulty than 8 man, in our guild's experience, though this is not intended - will be perceived by the community as more prestigious clears for serious, hardcore raiding guilds - if the past is anything to go off.

In previous MMOs, the operation/raid setting with the highest number of players has always been perceived as the most meaningful content for guilds to tackle.
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dchero
01.03.2012 , 12:11 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Diminish View Post
From what Ive seen, 8 and 16 man raids share the same lockout?
Can anyone confirm this? What would the be the point in doing 16 man?
I believe the lockout is on the encounter, regardless of "size". Size is a preference and I am sure some of the content is eaiser on 8 man and some is easier on 16 man.

There are two locks outs. One for "normal" mode and a shared "Hard Mode / Nightmare" mode.

So you can run the content twice ... normal mode (either 8 or 16) and either hard mode or nightmare mode (8 or 16).

You can't run it 4 times (noramal 8, normal 16, HM/Night 8, HM/Night 16).

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metusodium
01.03.2012 , 12:30 PM | #8
Any of you can prove this for yourself by going to your mission log and looking at the lockouts page.

Normal and hard modes are on different lockouts, while 8 and 16 man versions share the same lockout.

Yes gear in normal mode is auto assigned to people that can use it, and yes it works poorly. I was given many items that were equal to what I was already wearing when it would have been an upgrade for others.