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50 Item auction house limit=high unemployment

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50 Item auction house limit=high unemployment

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Kourage
01.03.2012 , 10:04 AM | #51
Make a mule. I have a level 1 Agent on Imperial Fleet with a 5k bag expansion, just for selling my stuff.
Looking for a good woman. Able to clean, cook, sew, catch bait, and clean fish. Must have boat and motor.
((Please send picture of boat and motor))

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aironeousb
01.03.2012 , 10:05 AM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Maidel View Post
No, Im sorry, Im really not missing the point. You are adding 2 and 2 and getting 50.


You are complaining that there is nothing on the market.

You are complaining that most of the things you put on dont sell

you are equating this to being because there is a maximum of 50 items allowed.


Which is untrue.


There is nothing on the market for two reasons. Reason 1 being that the market isnt exactly user friendly. Reason 2 being that the game is new and comparing it to WOW is simply silly as that market has been going for a long long time.

As for blaming the lack of market slots for the reason that nothing sells, well again thats a ridiculous connection. Nothing that you put up sells for two reasons. 1 - because not many people use the market because its not user friendly. Reason 2 - because no one wants crappy green items.

Put up decent stuff, some blues and purples, and it WILL sell. I can categorically prove this as it is exactly what I do, and it works.
I'm not into arguing with you. Most of my stuff is armoring and mods and earpieces - stuff you can only find on commendation vendors or finishing quests.

My best selling items without any doubt at all is earpieces.
I don't keep statistics of my stuff I put up it always changes ok.
All I know is when i started the game and I was coming up the levels and the first time I searched the auction house nothing I searched for was there.
And the next level search result nothing.
And the next level search result nothing.
The auction house was utterly useless to me for leveling.

I don't care if the math makes sense ok?
When I started playing after so many levels I learned you can't find crap on the auction house (GTN) so when I figured out how to craft things now I want to put as much stuff as I can on the auction house so new players can HAVE SOMETHING/SEE SOMETHING when they come to the auction house.

If I get 30 mails 18 will be rejects, 6 will be earpieces sold, the other 6 will be mods/armoring or loots I picked up.

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Belkiratwo
01.03.2012 , 10:07 AM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by Maidel View Post
I have to disagree with you here. I cant make purple might hilts (grade 3,5,7 and 9) fast enough. Even when selling them way above where I can sell the individual materials. and they are for characters between levels 15 and 21

This just further reinforces my point about knowing your market.


You have a market for those hilts but I'm assuming you don't waste time making and posting the green quality hilts?

If it sells then there is a market for it but if you keep posting the same crap and it keeps not selling the problem isn't the GTN it's the fact that the poster doesn't understand.

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Maidel
01.03.2012 , 10:07 AM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by jettemakaron View Post
After i play a whole day i have way more then 50 things to sell, bags are full, my mail is loaded with old auctions that havent sold, and i have 50 active autions.

I have to vendor quite alot of things i think i could have sold at the gtn.
You tried selling them.


They didnt sell.


Yet you still think they could have sold?

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evil-bob
01.03.2012 , 10:11 AM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by aironeousb View Post
How many of you agree with the 50 item auction house limit?
I agree with it; it makes sense for a lot of reasons.

The only thing I hate about the AH is the lack of search/sorting options. For example, you cannot search for just "boots" - you have to search for all of medium armor. That's pretty worthless.

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Waypoc
01.03.2012 , 10:12 AM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by aironeousb View Post
How many of you agree with the 50 item auction house limit?
I'm level 31 and I just received 20 "no sale" reject mails and I'm getting sick of dealing with this.

1) I am not over pricing or even medium pricing, in fact whatever price pops up when I plug my item into the auction house I choose a figure at least 30% less than it - AT LEAST.
And I have a diversity of products - armoring, mods, random loots and grenades.

2) The 50 item limit is leaving me very little buffer room of the last 8 items I picked up questing with all the reject sales emails

3) How do you expect me to continue to advance cybertech skill when I have an arseload of wait time to just get rid of all the things in my cargo bay plus sell off all the stuff I pick up questing?

4) At some point another 5 items auction house increase limit should be allowed maybe at level 32

5) Until I navigated my way through your lack of "ooopsy crew skills selection should have been included in class selection" I did not know that you would be sticking a diaper on my face.
I had to google scavenging+cybertech plus a bunch of other things to find out that it is what I should have been doing the whole time. In the meantime I've been wasting my time on treasure hunting so I just switched to scavenging.

6) Your game is in-efficient at selling and buying at this time
I only researched how to create armoring and mods because there was so little things on the auction house for me to buy.

7) There is a very unacceptable low amount of items selling on the auction house - too little.
On my earlier levels I had a very hard time finding anything I needed, even over priced.
I decided to start crafting things and putting them on the auction house because of this but your stupid 50 item limit is screwing up the economy of your game.

Look for yourself. Pick a random class and spec and try to search for something selling that will help you - it's not there. The trade rules should be laxed in the beginning on limits and gradually tightened as the economy grows not strangled from the starting line.

Like it or not, when you create an economy in a massive multiplayer online game you have officially taken a step into politics so deal with it.

In order for an economy to grow you must lax the rules at first and gradually strengthen them and adapt them as the economy grows and more people try to take advantage of the system.
Do people really buy and sell on the Broker?

Is there a real need at sub-max level? I'm L38 and I bought 1 item and that was just for fun and I picked up something better soon after. This game is soo loot heavy, with easy combat, the need for gear and mods is really not there under 50. At least not for me. It's like heroics. They're there. They give good loot but there is no need. It's not like it's going to speed your leveling process or give you great gear that's going to make a huge difference in you PvE or PvP.

The gear I get from regular questing almost negates the need for a broker sub-50. For that matter so does crafting though you have to level crafting to get to max level crafting obviously.

Just my opinion but this game has waaay too much good loot for regular questing.
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Maidel
01.03.2012 , 10:17 AM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by Belkiratwo View Post
This just further reinforces my point about knowing your market.


You have a market for those hilts but I'm assuming you don't waste time making and posting the green quality hilts?

If it sells then there is a market for it but if you keep posting the same crap and it keeps not selling the problem isn't the GTN it's the fact that the poster doesn't understand.
Fair enough


and yes, I dont even bother selling the blue hilts, just doesnt move fast enough. Purple or nothing.

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Wolfeisberg
01.03.2012 , 10:18 AM | #58
I haven't even touched the auction house yet, don't even know what the interface is like. I'm level 24, and have sold everything to a vendor. The game gives me everything I need to level up, and I craft my own gear as well.


The less importance of the AH the better imo, it keeps people from buying credits, which means less credit farmers and sellers in the game. A player economy should be very low key, something that really is not needed, but just as an option.

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Maidel
01.03.2012 , 10:20 AM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by aironeousb View Post
I don't care if the math makes sense ok?
When I started playing after so many levels I learned you can't find crap on the auction house (GTN) so when I figured out how to craft things now I want to put as much stuff as I can on the auction house so new players can HAVE SOMETHING/SEE SOMETHING when they come to the auction house.

If I get 30 mails 18 will be rejects, 6 will be earpieces sold, the other 6 will be mods/armoring or loots I picked up.
Whenever I go on the auction houses what I see is a wave of green.

Which has no point because as you level the kit you get is BETTER than the greens you can buy. The only things worth buying are SOME blues and purples.

Just shoving any old crap up and complaining it doesnt sell is both contradictory (because you have already said you dont care if it doesnt make sense) and it is unhelpful because it just adds to the level of crap that new people have to wade through trying to find ANYTHING useful.

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aironeousb
01.03.2012 , 10:21 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by Belkiratwo View Post
The problem isn't the limit the problem is what you are posting on the GTN.


On average I see about 7-10% of my auctions fail however I am not posting random crap.


You need to understand the market if you want to make money in it. As I posted in another thread:

The majority of purchases of Gear/Gear Mods in any MMO are done by level capped characters for alts.

If you are posting random BoE items or item modifications you are going to see horrible sales, PERIOD. There is no market for those items right now. Most players are focusing on leveling and the storyline and could care less about a +2 item upgrade.

If you want to sell item mods sell the level 50 mods and you will see a drastic increase in the volume of sales since THIS IS WHERE THE MARKET IS.

If you want to sell things to players not at level cap or if you want to appeal to a high percentage of the market then you need to be selling:

Raw Materials
Consumables
Missions
Schematics

Those 4 things are what people use when they are leveling. People do not spend credits on minor gear upgrades that will be replaced by easy quests or flashpoints.


Keep posting 50 auctions of crap a day and keep thinking that it's the size limit that's holding you back.

I'll keep posting my 50 relevant auctions at a time then reposting 50 more when they've all sold an hour later.
Ok but I am not complaining as just a seller but as a buyer too. I'm telling you when I was leveling it was very hard to find anything on the Galactic Trade Network that I needed and since I saw this day after day I decided I would always keep my items being sold at the max but they are telling me, "50 items max!!"

It's not right to do that at this time, at this low economy level in the beginning of a game.

Fine, you had good sales.
Crap I've had good sales sometimes too. 10 mails and 8 are money, I get it all the time.
My point is the 50 item limit is too small at this time. It holding back new players from buying stuff. It's holding me back from helping new players since I sell at a low reasonable price and I am not abusing the system.