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You Guys DO Realize You're The Minority, Right?

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You Guys DO Realize You're The Minority, Right?

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Sznur
01.03.2012 , 01:57 AM | #201
If most of topics on forums were positive and I would be one that hates a game, I would be saying that forum goers are vocal minority and majority of players hates the game just like me but can't be bothered to post. That would make me feel better I suppose.

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Asuka
01.03.2012 , 01:58 AM | #202
Quote: Originally Posted by Gunryu View Post
1 - YEs there are bugs in every MMO launch but NOTHING like this! (don't even mention WoW at launch because Bioware has had YEARS to learn from WoW and other MMOs mistakes)

2 - I said MINI MAP! Heck even if I look at what I am fighting, and as for scroll up? So after every last fight or running I do to get where I need to be I should scroll up?

3 - WoW has turned into a lobby game which is why I have been looking for a new mmo.
I hope you realize that there are bugs that don't exist in beta testing that do crop up in launch when a bazillion people are playing. There are also bugs that take a hell of a long time to fix properly while people expect customer service to fix their bug on the spot when it doesn't work that way then they get pissed and claim customer service sucks when the response they got was appropriate. WoW was a cesspool of bugs at launch and many bugs took years for Blizzard to address. The bugs people b*tch about here are like 95% nothing critical that can't be addressed down the road.

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Captain_Failure
01.03.2012 , 01:59 AM | #203
Quote: Originally Posted by Sznur View Post
If most of topics on forums were positive and I would be one that hates a game, I would be saying that forum goers are vocal minority and majority of players hates the game just like me but can't be bothered to post. That would make me feel better I suppose.
And there we have it, the crux of the issue. Thread over folks, we can all go home.

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Soonerjohn
01.03.2012 , 02:01 AM | #204
Quote: Originally Posted by ryathal View Post
you do realize that 50% of players that bought this game still being subbed after 3 months is an amazing success...
I wouldn't call that type of churn an amazing success. They did well selling the boxes, but the game won't be a long term one for most players. Outside of the storyline it just is not very good.

Storyline 10/10
gameplay 5/10
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Captain_Failure
01.03.2012 , 02:02 AM | #205
Quote: Originally Posted by Soonerjohn View Post
I wouldn't call that type of churn an amazing success. They did well selling the boxes, but the game won't be a long term one for most players. Outside of the storyline it just is not very good.

Storyline 10/10
gameplay 5/10
Sadly, you don't speak for everyone by a long shot. Well not sadly, but you get my point.

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GalacticKegger
01.03.2012 , 02:02 AM | #206
Quote: Originally Posted by NightfireFox View Post
Seriously, if EVERYONE in this forum unsubbed, it'd be just a small dent. Historically, very small portions of the community post on the game forums.

So please do not assume you represent the majority of players in this game.
If everyone who threatened to unsub actually did so... here's hoping they leave the forums as well so we can get on with being a community.
Can we please just have our pre-KotFE SWTOR MMORPG back?

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Graveland
01.03.2012 , 02:03 AM | #207
Quote: Originally Posted by Vitiatix View Post
Are you level 50?

Have you done a lot of PvP? Are you above valor rank 30?

Have you tried any heroic flashpoints, or operations?

Please explain.
Valor 58

Completed all heroic flashpoints except the Foundry on the last boss of Eternity Vault.

I'm fine with the game as long as updates keep coming.

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Gunryu
01.03.2012 , 02:03 AM | #208
Quote: Originally Posted by Asuka View Post
I hope you realize that there are bugs that don't exist in beta testing that do crop up in launch when a bazillion people are playing. There are also bugs that take a hell of a long time to fix properly while people expect customer service to fix their bug on the spot when it doesn't work that way then they get pissed and claim customer service sucks when the response they got was appropriate. WoW was a cesspool of bugs at launch and many bugs took years for Blizzard to address. The bugs people b*tch about here are like 95% nothing critical that can't be addressed down the road.

Ability delay is a BIG bug that should have been addressed before almost anything and the game should not have even been released before it was fixed.
You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new. - Steve Jobs

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Varghjerta
01.03.2012 , 02:05 AM | #209
Quote: Originally Posted by NightmanSpider View Post
God forbid we try to improve the game by pointing out it's flaws. Maybe the game has a lot to fix, that'd explain why there are a lot of threads complaining about topics. Maybe forums aren't just for praising a game and actually serve as a tool for the community to use.

We will voice our concerns for the game and as long as they are constructively critical, at least we can help the dev's understand what their audience is experiencing and try to make it a better game.
Pointing out flaws that is great but the way most people do it on is like jumping up and down like a spoiled child while dooming and glooming the game.

One example is before release the same people doomed and gloomed the game because of gold sellers exploiters would take over the game.

After release when Bioware took action and banned the Goldsellers ,Exploiters then suddenly Bioware was the worst company in human history.

As you say constructive critisism is good but some people do expect that in a matter of a day theire life threatining bug of not being able to hit on one of theire companion should be fixed overnight and if it is not it is Doom and GLoom again (but that says more about something then other )

I swear most people complaining about that havent been playing on the release on brand new MMO's

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MareLooke
01.03.2012 , 02:09 AM | #210
The dev saying that "it's lonely at the top" is, if I may be so blunt, an idiot. It's not that hard to be lvl50 for someone who games a lot without skipping content and was in early access. I haven't purposefully skipped a single quest (though I started skipping the bonus series on planets as otherwise I would be outleveling the planets I was on by a bit too much) and I made it to 47 now, sure I've played loads, but I haven't exactly been powerleveling I even went as far as spending an entire day just cruising around Dromund Kaas and Hutta to get the datacrons (I'm Sith, so there's no other reason for me to go to Nal Hutta)

Yesterday I compiled a list of 21 major flaws just off the top of my head (some might be arguable or related, but most are not), without putting much thought in. People leveling fast is no excuse for the sort of major issues the game still has. All of which are either common knowledge (eg. have HUGE threads on these boards) or have been reported (by me or mates of mine, usually both). Reports usually get closed without receiving ANY help or ANY information on what they are planning to do about the problem ("thank you for the bug report, we passed it on but we're not going to help you anyway or give you any more information or any way to follow up on the problem").

Honestly "it's lonely at the top" is just a lame excuse for "we released an unfinished game and you have been playing too much for us to be able to cover up our ****ups and now we are going to blame it on those really enjoying the game and putting in lots of time". Smart way to piss off your most loyal fans.

And if people shouldn't be this high level by now th en maybe they shouldn't have done the entire early access thing because anyone who's not been making tons of alts, started during early access and has been putting in any amount of time will be well past level 30 now.
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