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Recent actions against some customer accounts

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Radiatonia
01.03.2012 , 12:04 AM | #501
Quote: Originally Posted by humpacactus View Post
You specifically claim that these people have been exploiting and botting. Do you have proof of this?

Otherwise I prefer to give the consumer the benefit of the doubt and from what I've read in this forum and others it sounds much more like a game design flaw than a bug or exploit.

I've already asked you numerous times to clarify why you think its an exploit and you've decided to instead drop out of the conversation.

Either explain why you believe this to be true or I'm not sure you can honestly bring anything else to the table anyway.

Edit: You can't rage over people assuming its Bioware's fault when you obviously are just assuming the opposite. See how they are both assumptions? Either you have proof its botting/exploiting that you are withholding or you're just assuming it was the consumers to blame.
Yes he does. The first post.


Seriously. Knock it off. You're making assumptions where there is no evidence to support them as an excuse to rage at Bioware. Then when people call you on your assumptions, are going "LOL WHERE'S YOU'RE EVIDENCE!?".

That's not being clever. That's being distressingly obtuse in the favor of deliberately avoiding addressing the situation at hand.

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JeramieCrowe
01.03.2012 , 12:04 AM | #502
Quote: Originally Posted by humpacactus View Post
You've already admitted its a game design flaw by Bioware, is there anything more to say?


You assume that its fine to ban people for the way Bioware designed the game.

Obviously this is not ok and thats why people are concerned about it overall.
Dude, no one has been BANNED for farming loot containers on Ilum.
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humpacactus
01.03.2012 , 12:05 AM | #503
Quote: Originally Posted by Cranberries View Post
It's effectively the same thing. A level 1 hoards so much of the market economy because he has the power to, and then sells it for more thus making a profit. Ergo, a level 1 stays in 1 spot on Ilum and continually opens chests granting him credits over time.

Both result in 1 thing: the player has worked, whether it's hard or easy, to get credits and so is rewarded. However Bioware are angry about this and temp banning people for ... playing the game as it was designed.

I hate fanboys who think Bioware can do no wrong. >_>
Those fanboys are seriously maddening and unfortunately troll these forums constantly.

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JeramieCrowe
01.03.2012 , 12:06 AM | #504
Quote: Originally Posted by Cranberries View Post
It's effectively the same thing. A level 1 hoards so much of the market economy because he has the power to, and then sells it for more thus making a profit. Ergo, a level 1 stays in 1 spot on Ilum and continually opens chests granting him credits over time.

Both result in 1 thing: the player has worked, whether it's hard or easy, to get credits and so is rewarded. However Bioware are angry about this and temp banning people for ... playing the game as it was designed.

I hate fanboys who think Bioware can do no wrong. >_>
"Fanboys who think BioWare can do no wrong"....

Get that stigma out of your narrow mind, and MAYBE you'll understand what I'm trying to say.

BioWare is doing what they can to keep from allowing a new economy to become broken, and all you can do is quote me exploits from an already broken economy. Please, try to do better.

Yes, it's unfortunate that some who have found and.... taken advantage of those loopholes... had to be "paused" for a little while.

Well, if it keeps the economy in check, more power to them, and SMALL SACRIFICE.
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humpacactus
01.03.2012 , 12:07 AM | #505
Quote: Originally Posted by Radiatonia View Post
Yes he does. The first post.


Seriously. Knock it off. You're making assumptions where there is no evidence to support them as an excuse to rage at Bioware. Then when people call you on your assumptions, are going "LOL WHERE'S YOU'RE EVIDENCE!?".

That's not being clever. That's being distressingly obtuse in the favor of deliberately avoiding addressing the situation at hand.
Temporary bans where given for people farming in level 50 zones. I thought this had been clarified by now.


In this scenario temporary bans are not as bad but still extremely ridiculous. We can debate about this further if you'd like.

EDIT: Why are you even back on these forums anyway? We had debunked you as an obvious fanboy troll pages ago when you claimed the people banned had been botting/exploiting. You had no proof and I asked you for proof. Do you not see how hypocritical your being here?

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Ankido
01.03.2012 , 12:09 AM | #506
<Enter Sarcasm>

Someone was arrested for exploiting ebay. They were told by the judge that it ruined the United States economy. He is now serving life in prison.

<End Sarcasm>

Your error not ours. Nice cover up though with the Gold farmers.
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There is no greater power in the galaxy than the Jedi Counsil.
Against that power, the Sith cannot stand.
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Cranberries
01.03.2012 , 12:12 AM | #507
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
"Fanboys who think BioWare can do no wrong"....

Get that stigma out of your narrow mind, and MAYBE you'll understand what I'm trying to say.

BioWare is doing what they can to keep from allowing a new economy to become broken, and all you can do is quote me exploits from an already broken economy. Please, try to do better.

Yes, it's unfortunate that some who have found and.... taken advantage of those loopholes... had to be "paused" for a little while.

Well, if it keeps the economy in check, more power to them, and SMALL SACRIFICE.
The economy needs people who farm credits as their game "life" to survive.

Why do you think servers thrive so much despite all the gold sellers? The gold sellers put stuff on the AH for ridiculously low prices, which are then bought and put up for a profit (from the buying player). Gold sellers, while bad, generate their massive amount of income (of credits) via the AH (GNT in this case) and it, amazingly helps smooth the economy overall. The only issue is when credits are bought for real life money.

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JeramieCrowe
01.03.2012 , 12:14 AM | #508
Quote: Originally Posted by Cranberries View Post
The economy needs people who farm credits as their game "life" to survive.

Why do you think servers thrive so much despite all the gold sellers? The gold sellers put stuff on the AH for ridiculously low prices, which are then bought and put up for a profit (from the buying player). Gold sellers, while bad, generate their massive amount of income (of credits) via the AH (GNT in this case) and it, amazingly helps smooth the economy overall. The only issue is when credits are bought for real life money.
/boggle

You can't POSSIBLY be serious....

That's like saying that peace cannot be realized without terrorism...
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monegames
01.03.2012 , 12:14 AM | #509
Quote: Originally Posted by JeramieCrowe View Post
This is why their accounts aren't being BANNED. They are being SUSPENDED. Huge difference.

A few days of game time isn't the end of the world. They'll fix it.
no it wouldnt be the end of the world just the end of my sub to the game.

I think that the people involved were exploiting using the zone flipping method. i would just like a response from Bioware stating that that was the case.

if they were not exploiting the zone mechanics to get chests to respawn faster then i think temp ban/warnings were not a reasonable way to go about fixing the problem. since most people that play this game do not read the forums and can just randomly go to ilum and do the same thing without knowing that it could result in a suspensioin.

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humpacactus
01.03.2012 , 12:16 AM | #510
Quote: Originally Posted by monegames View Post
if they were not exploiting the zone mechanics to get chests to respawn faster then i think temp ban/warnings were not a reasonable way to go about fixing the problem. since most people that play this game do not read the forums and can just randomly go to ilum and do the same thing without knowing that it could result in a suspensioin.

You 100% got it and its sad that other people cant understand that.

That part of the bannings/suspenions (not the gold selling obviously) is Biowares fault and they should fix it without attacking their paying customers.