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Exactly how are you supposed to counter a scoundrel's burst?

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Exactly how are you supposed to counter a scoundrel's burst?

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Alzdaman
01.02.2012 , 11:01 PM | #141
Quote: Originally Posted by Kordoyn View Post
I was getting killed by the stun/opened as well. Now with 400 expertise and 19k hp I can actually put up a fight and win occasionally. When I finish off my pvp gear and have 23-5k hp it shouldn't be much of a problem.

Tank spec vanguard, here is my strategy

As soon as you hear the opener (those knives have a distinct sound, not sure how the scoundrel opener sounds) cc break, pop aoe stun. Gut OP to make it bleed, pop shield, pop medpack, toss sticky nade as an extra timed dmg dealer in case he stealths away. Proceed to make generous use of trinkets/adrenals/pvp buffs to burn him down faster than he gets you. If I survive until his armor penetration buff wears off, I'll win.
So, we need to use a medpac, trinket, CC breaker, pvp buffs, and stun to beat one opposing character?

That's Balance.
Maddog Mcclure

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Aniliss
01.02.2012 , 11:02 PM | #142
Haven't read every page but it's so clear who the operatives / scoundrels are in this thread telling people pvp isn't balanced and 1 v 1 and to get friends to help. So they rightfully should be able to do about 10k + damage in 3-5 seconds. That justifies balance. There is always a face roll class in every mmo. Regardless though, the situation is what it is so I just deal with it. If I pop all my cds on my Sith Jugg and chain them correctly I have a chance. I was going to roll an operative too until I realized they were face roll. Decided to roll sniper which seems to have the highest skill cap of any class atm. I know loads of people that are rerolling operative just to be the FoTM lol. They will regret it because operative most likely will be the 1st class to get hit with the nerf bat.
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MigSebes
01.02.2012 , 11:02 PM | #143
Quote: Originally Posted by Knifewrench View Post
Stunlock, -4000, -3000, -3000, finally regain control.

Wut.
Easy.

Anti-CC. Stun. Pwn face. AOE if he tries to vanish.
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Megatons
01.02.2012 , 11:03 PM | #144
Whoever says they have problems with juggernauts 1v1 need to ****. With 40% dmg reduction, force scream barrier+relic to boost barrier i was brought down from 100-10% health in 1 stun on my lvl 50 jugg by a scoundrel about 15-20 times during a couple of warzones.

If i cant live thrue 1st opener as tank with cds popped tweakz need to happen.

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Letsplayrift
01.02.2012 , 11:07 PM | #145
have an absorb on that eats the whole opener like 99% of people do

or be 50

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Kordoyn
01.02.2012 , 11:09 PM | #146
Quote: Originally Posted by Alzdaman View Post
So, we need to use a medpac, trinket, CC breaker, pvp buffs, and stun to beat one opposing character?

That's Balance.
I never said it was balanced, I was giving advice on how I managed to find a solution that is suitable for me.

I have no doubt pvp dmg, not just from OPs/scoundrels will be tweaked hundreds of times. It happens in every MMO.

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Aneu
01.02.2012 , 11:09 PM | #147
My co-leader went emo today and posted this

Enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ykBa...&feature=feedu
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Alzdaman
01.02.2012 , 11:11 PM | #148
Quote: Originally Posted by Kordoyn View Post
I never said it was balanced, I was giving advice on how I managed to find a solution that is suitable for me.

I have no doubt pvp dmg, not just from OPs/scoundrels will be tweaked hundreds of times. It happens in every MMO.
I know, but you were serving more as an example of how ridiculous people are that say it's balanced. Wasn't directed at you, per se.
Maddog Mcclure

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Letsplayrift
01.02.2012 , 11:15 PM | #149
this scoundrel is like the bigfoot, he is a mashup of every strange animal you have ever seen

somehow he heals, bleeds you out, and 2 shots you all in the same spec

ps. those were different scoundrels

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Stormgnoef
01.02.2012 , 11:34 PM | #150
Warzone/bg were never balanced around 1vs1 in any mmo.Go do some team work instead of soloing everything.