This Is How Competition Works

Blind apologism is often the result of vitriolic and repetitive complaining from people. It's also a cover for fear of the truth getting out and ruining your playerbase which you hoped to see grow.

Personally I play both and I criticize both. Makes me unreliable in some eyes because I might not blindly jump to defense but mix in criticism at both with praises to both. I am a loyal traitor of two countries.

But I play many games, most of them have flaws, alot of flaws. You don't improve games by staying silent over the issues. The most loyal fans are those who constructively criticize the most. It is not some form of negativism, it's positivism without showing false loyalty. Most people leaving in the end are the discontents and those who have pretended loyalty but lied at heart.

Why do people continuously compare programming to out of this word analogies that don't work? Do they think it makes them look clever?

Rose tinted glasses. EQ was the home of some of the most ridiculous outlandish gamer behavior I've ever seen. Furor of FoH in particular acted like pretty much the greatest waste of space on earth, and he did so on a regular basis. See, you got by because you ignored those people. Try to do it again, it isn't hard.

I understand you point of view. I for one am content, for now, to let Bioware get up to speed.

However, I disagree with you. It should definitely be inline with any current MMO. They have had ample time and resources in which research what is necessary to have a competitive MMO. They have had so many other games come before theirs, from which they have seen what is required, statistically, to create a competitive MMO.

But ya know, expectations are like opinions, which are like botty exhausts: everybody has one!

The game aside, I reject two philosophies that seem to pervade your post.

1. I know what competition is, but I don't think it is the sole measure of success or worth in the universe.

2. I don't think that appealing to as many people as possible is a measure of success or worth.

Why people compere SWToR with other MMO's?
First of all, most of the people playing this game have experience from playing other MMO’s.
Second. This game is build up around the basic MMO concept. Uses a lot of the same futures as other MMOs.
This IS an MMO, they commercial them self as an innovative MMO. And if they commercial them self as an innovative MMO, then they need to have something to be innovative from. And the only thing is other MMO’s.

The game is not different in any aspect then this is an si-fi. Nothing ells is new with this game. Voice acting? Been in games for ages. They just use it everywhere. Storry heavy lined? Not new, every MMO out there has a storry line, SWToR just lean more heavily on it.
Other then that, SWToR is following the basic MMO recipe, but in a very bad way.
Since they are following the basic MMO recipe, they also should be innovative with it as they say they are. ATM they are lacking a ton of stuff, ok game is new, but they still say they are innovative. ATM there is nothing innovative with the game at all.
Does it come later? Right now they are following an old and outdated MMO recipe.

In ever aspect of the game you can compere it to something ells.
And don’t come here and say they don’t have an MMO experience because EA have had an MMO out already.

WOW the Hero engine!!!

The one crappy platform they could have got, they went with!

You do know the Hero engine was created in early 2000 right??? Simutronic had it when they showcased their never released MMO, Hero's Journey.

We're talking about an engine that has only 2 games released under it's belt so far. Swtor and some other small MMO.

Not sure if i understand you well, but if you think it's a selling point, think again!

Hero engine=old, unproven and cheap.

When EQ first came out (the first year or so), people like that got ignored, and shunned. As EQ progressed, and grew, more and more 'adult' children started playing it, and it became harder to have to deal with them.

This is one reason why I truly hope that SWTOR doesn't have an ignore list limit, as I find myself ignoring people regularly.

~S

You also don't fix problems by constantly crying and gnawing at there feet saying "Your game is absolute ****! Rift is better! Your games gonna fail!" hopping that this will somehow "motivate" them. Sorry to tell you but the world doesn't work like that. I have no idea WHY you think the world works like that.

We have a feedback section. Use it. Its called proper, detailed feedback void of personal opinion. Do it. Its called leave out pointless insults from posts. Its unbelievable that had to be said.

This game is FAR from perfect. But if you ACTUALLY wanna help, you have all the tools you need to help. And there is a PROPER, CIVILIZED way to do so.

P.S. I'm not accusing you of any of this. Just making a point to those who it applys too. My primary is french so pardon me if its not exactly worded like I intended.

Are you sure about the second one? Appealing to as many people as possible surely means that more people are likely to buy the product, thereby contributing to the product's longevity. Longevity is, in my mind, the true measure of a MMO's success.