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Why is Death From Above so much better than Mortar Volley?

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Why is Death From Above so much better than Mortar Volley?

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Shammus
01.01.2012 , 09:17 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Andrew_Waltfeld View Post
sorry about that. My failure on my part.

A) Realizing I don't have a bounty hunter level 10 +

B) Failing to find a bounty hunter willingly to show the ability (even offered 2k credits)

So now leveling up a bounty hunter up to level 10. Space barring as fast as I go. I don't back down. If the video evidence proves me wrong, then by all means, I will formally say I was wrong.
You can use the video I linked.. you can see from the time he clicks DFA til the time damage pops above the head is around 2 seconds.
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harkain
01.01.2012 , 09:17 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Shammus View Post
no this isn't a fact.. anyone who plays BH knows this

especially the unload


mortar, and volley are the same as well.. I have played both a commando and a mercenary.
played matters verry little since this issue arose during the last stages of beta (the mv one) they are not the same, neither of the skills and if you had played since then you would know this, lvl both and then speak, being hit in pvp does not count for an accurate experience.

also rocketpunch ofcourse and no there is no bonus feature for a trooper over merc to make up for it as canon actually is a dumber choice than dual wielding when weapon damage difference is so small and the dps of a weapon matters verry little damage wise, dual wielding is superior in all forms and all skills attached to them

what you played in beta matters about as much as what you played in random x mmo, the build and skills work different so unless you have a trooper and bh with access to both skills NOW ingame stop bringin what you played up before as some sort of validation for your obviously wrong opinion
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Sookster
01.01.2012 , 09:20 PM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by CHRISGG View Post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5whOUZyAKdE&t=0m42s

Unload clearly does not deal any damage until about halfway through the cast. QED.
That video is from beta (nov 20 on that upload date), it doesn't shoot like that after release, so BW must've fixed unload but left full auto alone.
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CHRISGG
01.01.2012 , 09:22 PM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by Sookster View Post
That video is from beta (nov 20 on that upload date), it doesn't shoot like that after release, so BW must've fixed unload but left full auto alone.
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Herrisa
01.01.2012 , 09:22 PM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Andrew_Waltfeld View Post
sorry about that. My failure on my part.

A) Realizing I don't have a bounty hunter level 10 +

B) Failing to find a bounty hunter willingly to show the ability (even offered 2k credits)

So now leveling up a bounty hunter up to level 10. Space barring as fast as I go. I don't back down. If the video evidence proves me wrong, then by all means, I will formally say I was wrong.
Oh...you should have said something.... 12 BH and a 36 TRP. I would have shown them both for you to film.

MV feels so sloooowwwwww compared to DFA. Never use it in PvP, that's for sure. Not to mention why does it take half the cd to actually get the damage going? Screw the animation, put the damage up there at 1 second.
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Shammus
01.01.2012 , 09:24 PM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by harkain View Post
played matters verry little since this issue arose during the last stages of beta (the mv one) they are not the same, neither of the skills and if you had played since then you would know this, lvl both and then speak, being hit in pvp does not count for an accurate experience.

also rocketpunch ofcourse and no there is no bonus feature for a trooper over merc to make up for it as canon actually is a dumber choice than dual wielding when weapon damage difference is so small and the dps of a weapon matters verry little damage wise, dual wielding is superior in all forms and all skills attached to them

what you played in beta matters about as much as what you played in random x mmo, the build and skills work different so unless you have a trooper and bh with access to both skills NOW ingame stop bringin what you played up before as some sort of validation for your obviously wrong opinion
Where are you getting these numbers from?

Unload still does not activate instantly neither does death from above. I would make a fraps myself but stuck at work until 7am so it will have to wait until then.
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Andrew_Waltfeld
01.01.2012 , 09:27 PM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by Shammus View Post
You can use the video I linked.. you can see from the time he clicks DFA til the time damage pops above the head is around 2 seconds.
I don't want anything to be biased. and it's much easier for me to just record it on my computer in a format that my video editor (Adobe Premerie) can use then export that from youtube, change the formating and resolution, then literally putting them next to each other.

Basically, I'm not half-assing this or leaving any side of the arguement (MV or DFA) any excuses. This video is meant to put this issue to rest once and for all.

I already choose a angle directly behind the player character on level ground raised about 15 degrees so you can see the front of what the character is doing.
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CHRISGG
01.01.2012 , 09:28 PM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by Andrew_Waltfeld View Post
I don't want anything to be biased. and it's much easier for me to just record it on my computer in a format that my video editor (Adobe Premerie) can use then export that from youtube, change the formating and resolution, then literally putting them next to each other.

Basically, I'm not half-assing this or leaving any side of the arguement (MV or DFA) any excuses. This video is meant to put this issue to rest once and for all.

I already choose a angle directly behind the player character on level ground raised about 15 degrees so you can see the front of what the character is doing.
I don't want anything to be biased. Everyone elses footage is biased!

lol
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Shammus
01.01.2012 , 09:34 PM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by Andrew_Waltfeld View Post
I don't want anything to be biased. and it's much easier for me to just record it on my computer in a format that my video editor (Adobe Premerie) can use then export that from youtube, change the formating and resolution, then literally putting them next to each other.

Basically, I'm not half-assing this or leaving any side of the arguement (MV or DFA) any excuses. This video is meant to put this issue to rest once and for all.

I already choose a angle directly behind the player character on level ground raised about 15 degrees so you can see the front of what the character is doing.
well the only way that can happen is if you do the toons yourself.. otherwise you have no way of knowing when the abilities were activated... until then you'll just have to trust coming from a 50 merc, that the video I linked is accurate of how DFA works. and unload I don't know if its quite as long as it is, but I usually don't even use it because it never seems to work properly.. I use it more as a healer in pvp then anything but just because all my other attacks suck or I'm too busy healing.

As far as the statement above about dual-pistols being superior to auto cannons I can't agree there, but I don't think its that much of a difference... the dps does matter.. as well as stats. weapon rating is weapon rating, and duel wielding doesn't give 100 percent dmg from your second hand.. its maybe 30 percent of damage. And if you want to talk about stats, that's why you can use a generator and we cannot... which would be COMMANDO'S can have higher stats.. then a bh using just the pvp gear as a comparison

http://www.torhead.com/item/yucwQh
and offhand.
http://www.torhead.com/item/dR5UCHS

that's why that pistol has less stats and dmg then this cannon

http://www.torhead.com/item/fRj4BGc
oh and generator
http://www.torhead.com/item/5Ob1U0I


And i'm pretty sure if GZ chimed in since he's bio's number junky that he would tell you this brings them pretty close to even.
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Andrew_Waltfeld
01.01.2012 , 09:34 PM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by CHRISGG View Post
I don't want anything to be biased. Everyone elses footage is biased!

lol
well no, if everything is at the same angle etc, there is no room for argument. Besides, would take me the same amount of time to export, convert video etc then it is to level up a bounty hunter to 10, do MV, record it and do the editing.

Only with me leveling up a bounty hunter, I can ensure that the test requirements are exactly the same. While someone else footage, I can't change it to a slightly different angle or whatever.
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