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PvP Healing, by far the worst experience I've ever had as a gamer

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PvP Healing, by far the worst experience I've ever had as a gamer

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Jooji
01.01.2012 , 07:56 PM | #391
Quote: Originally Posted by KorbenHawk View Post
Yet again another post that just chooses to ignore the main point of the argument - you shouldn't need someone else to make you viable 1v1. No one is talking about how we should be able to obliterate DPS while staying at full HP or survive against 2+ DPS forever. If you've had ANY experience pvp healing in this game, you would realize that healing only prolongs your death. With the strength of DPS, cc and gap closers available in this game, any attempt to outheal any kind of DPS is going to result in you dying.

1v1, full hp, equivalent gear, comparable skill, if a dps jumps on you, you will die before he/she does, that is all...which is why I switched to DPS and throw heals in emergencies.
Why are you arguing about 1v1 viability anyway? If you're playing OBJECTIVE based pvp you'll rarely be alone. Maybe if you're defending an Alderaan node you might end up alone, but generally healers aren't doing that anyway.

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Rawael
01.01.2012 , 08:03 PM | #392
Quote: Originally Posted by rawkus View Post
Honestly, it's not even fun.

I'm hardly bad or a beginner (2700 exp Resto Druid), but I can't even begin to describe how awful PvP healing is in this game. I won't even get into the raid frames and totally unresponsive targeting system. Right now my Operative is 44 so I have all my abilities and it's still crap. Every single random DPS baddie can easily knock off 30-50% of my health in a global so it's impossible to keep up and then you just get interrupted/cc'ed to hell. Juking the interrupt? Good luck figuring that out!

It's not a positioning issue. It's not a l2p issue either.

It's just not fun being completely helpless without serious peels and even then healing is totally underwhelming.
While there are enough issues:

I think it's wrong to reward a thread written by somebody that hasn't even reached 50 yet and expects to do okish against pvp equipped max level chars. Seriously, what's up with that? Since you were bragging about your rating, let's make another analogy using wow:

It's like expecting your level 70 restoration druid to to fine against a level 85 arena equipped rogue. Not gonna happen.
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AbleOrator
01.01.2012 , 08:12 PM | #393
Quote: Originally Posted by KorbenHawk View Post
Yet again another post that just chooses to ignore the main point of the argument - you shouldn't need someone else to make you viable 1v1. No one is talking about how we should be able to obliterate DPS while staying at full HP or survive against 2+ DPS forever. If you've had ANY experience pvp healing in this game, you would realize that healing only prolongs your death. With the strength of DPS, cc and gap closers available in this game, any attempt to outheal any kind of DPS is going to result in you dying.

1v1, full hp, equivalent gear, comparable skill, if a dps jumps on you, you will die before he/she does, that is all...which is why I switched to DPS and throw heals in emergencies.
That is the exact point I am making.

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xirinia
01.01.2012 , 08:19 PM | #394
Quote: Originally Posted by KorbenHawk View Post
Yet again another post that just chooses to ignore the main point of the argument - you shouldn't need someone else to make you viable 1v1. No one is talking about how we should be able to obliterate DPS while staying at full HP or survive against 2+ DPS forever. If you've had ANY experience pvp healing in this game, you would realize that healing only prolongs your death. With the strength of DPS, cc and gap closers available in this game, any attempt to outheal any kind of DPS is going to result in you dying.
I wasn't arguing the main point, I agree that healers need to be a bit more durable.

I was merely pointing specifics of how support works. If you support your team, your team should protect you. Then I was listing some of the examples of how can it be done, since AbleOrator didn't know how tanks can protect healers.

Also, if your opponent is using everything in his disposal (DPS, cc, and gap closers), why are you only using heals? You're still not likely to kill him alone, but you can give your team time to help you.

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SgtDukes
01.01.2012 , 08:44 PM | #395
As a lvl 42 Sage Seeer, I really love the utility, control, and heals this class gives me.

People expecting a similar experience to other games, need to learn to adapt to new mechanics and a new style of play.

Really though, if you are having trouble in a premade group then I dont know what to tell you.

If you are having these issues in a pug....well enough said.

If you want god mode healer go play Rift.

Edit: Also for those having trouble with the raide frames, I sugges Binding "next friendly target" to SHIFT + something easy to get to.

Makes a world of difference. Least it has for me.

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CaliJoe
01.01.2012 , 08:45 PM | #396
I've got a lvl 33 healer tank commando.It's almost hilarious w/ a bunch of strangers w/ my little green beam attempting to save them. Then a 50 juggernaut comes over and rick rolls me. LoL.

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Jooji
01.01.2012 , 08:47 PM | #397
Quote: Originally Posted by CaliJoe View Post
I've got a lvl 33 healer tank commando.It's almost hilarious w/ a bunch of strangers w/ my little green beam attempting to save them. Then a 50 juggernaut comes over and rick rolls me. LoL.
Your little green beam isn't meant to be a primary heal. It's intended to build your stacks and regen energy. GG you're bad and don't know your class. Maybe level all the way to 50 and you MIGHT learn along the way.

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Sookster
01.01.2012 , 08:49 PM | #398
A druid... there's your problem. SWTOR healing isn't quite the same. Healing as a BH Merc, not that hard and you get CC's (like everyone else) to deal with the damage over your heals, as a Sorc, if I'm struggling to save a friend I electricute the target and heal my friend, it wouldn't work if I just stood there spamming heal over and over like you can in WoW.

PS- I had an Earth Shaman.
Now that GoergZoeller is gone, buff operative.
SWTOR going F2P, now playing SWGemu.

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CaliJoe
01.01.2012 , 08:53 PM | #399
Quote: Originally Posted by Jooji View Post
Your little green beam isn't meant to be a primary heal. It's intended to build your stacks and regen energy. GG you're bad and don't know your class. Maybe level all the way to 50 and you MIGHT learn along the way.
Don't get all bent outa shape. I definately do get rolled by 50s often & no it's not fun. That is what it is. Yes I know my class. No I'm not all that great at pvp. I do suck at pvp. Then team leaders get all PO'd at us casuals.

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Rasstavad
01.01.2012 , 08:57 PM | #400
Quote: Originally Posted by Sookster View Post
A druid... there's your problem. SWTOR healing isn't quite the same. Healing as a BH Merc, not that hard and you get CC's (like everyone else) to deal with the damage over your heals, as a Sorc, if I'm struggling to save a friend I electricute the target and heal my friend, it wouldn't work if I just stood there spamming heal over and over like you can in WoW.

PS- I had an Earth Shaman.
an "earth shaman"? You mean Elemental (dps caster), Enhance (melee), or Resto (heals)?