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PvP Healing, by far the worst experience I've ever had as a gamer

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PvP Healing, by far the worst experience I've ever had as a gamer

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Execs
01.01.2012 , 06:28 PM | #371
Pvp healing isn't as bad as you make it out, the only sucky thing is the targeting.

Your nearly forced to use the group bar everytime to heal your own guys.. Make targeting easier and get a (if your sith) an assasin to guard you and be his (her) personal healer, he'll protect you easy enough :P

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AbleOrator
01.01.2012 , 06:32 PM | #372
Quote: Originally Posted by ChrisKeck View Post
Healers can't stand there and tank a dps like they can in WoW.

Learn to be mobile, you actually have to buy yourself space to heal in this game. In wow all you had to do was juke an interrupt and you were good to heal for the next 10 seconds, doesn't work like that here.


That said, it wouldn't be a bad idea to add an "oh sh--" button for healers to survive against unexpected lolburst.
Mobility means nothing in this game. While running you can barely cast anything which keeps you alive. You can slow your opponent but they slow you also. Once you try to cast a heal which keeps you alive you are stationary again, and once again they are on top of you doing WAY more damage than you can heal through. Everyone who tries to say healing doesnt need to be fixed bring up half-worthy points. I should flash bang my enemy run away about 20 meters and start to heal myself. After casting 3 or 4 heals my health raises from 30% to 75%... ... ... casting 3 or 4 heals I only heal myself about 45% health, and those are stationary heals with the best gear. Healers dont need to be buffed though... just play the game and rely more on a team of people. Enjoy respawning several times more than someone who puts their skill points in another tree (not healing specced).

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OccisorDK
01.01.2012 , 06:46 PM | #373
Is THAT your worst exp as a gamer?

I wonder how OP would react if he got hacked O.o
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Jooji
01.01.2012 , 06:48 PM | #374
Quote: Originally Posted by AbleOrator View Post
Mobility means nothing in this game. While running you can barely cast anything which keeps you alive. You can slow your opponent but they slow you also. Once you try to cast a heal which keeps you alive you are stationary again, and once again they are on top of you doing WAY more damage than you can heal through. Everyone who tries to say healing doesnt need to be fixed bring up half-worthy points. I should flash bang my enemy run away about 20 meters and start to heal myself. After casting 3 or 4 heals my health raises from 30% to 75%... ... ... casting 3 or 4 heals I only heal myself about 45% health, and those are stationary heals with the best gear. Healers dont need to be buffed though... just play the game and rely more on a team of people. Enjoy respawning several times more than someone who puts their skill points in another tree (not healing specced).
You sound terrible. And you have the best gear? I have 2 pieces under 136. I doubt your gear>mine. I feel pretty powerful as an operative healer. I wish I had a better way to get people off me but other than that our healing is pretty powerful.

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AbleOrator
01.01.2012 , 06:50 PM | #375
Quote: Originally Posted by RJChief View Post
welcome to the world of pug healing... if they dont come to your aide they obviously don't love you for it.

Fact of the matter is, Healers run the world of PVP so be selective in your choices. Make sure you heal those who understand the use of teamwork (i.e. tanks that gaurd you or DPS that peels your attacker) and make it known to all that you will refuse to heal random pug dps'ers

Should get you more respect and pvp control
Some of what you say is correct. Healers do make a big difference in pvp. Being selective doesnt help with pugging though. You do not group with the same people, so punishing those you are playing with by not healing them does not make them help you anymore as a healer. Not healing "random pug dps'ers" IE your teammates will simply cause you to loose since you are not doing what you spec'd to do. If you qued with the exact same people sure, you could try to convince them with your actions (not healing them) to help you as you help them. But this is not the case. It seems most people are trying to make the point that good team work should override what a healer should be able to do by himself. That is not totally true. In sports you need good team work, but even in a team you have to face your opponent head up. Think, Man to man defense. As of right now, healers are the weakest link. We always need someone to come rescue us. That shouldnt be. Even on a good team, my teammates should be able to know that in some situations I will be okay with against 1 guy. The healing in the game is broken because that is not the case. The situation is (especially as an Opt. healer) you always need someone to help you (peel, stun, guard). Play 10 BGs and you get one group who understands how to help you. The fact is you shouldnt need help as much... but what does all this talk Really do if the Developers arent going to make changes. I picked healing because I love being a team player, but at the same time I dont want to "Need" a baby-sitter. That is what makes this game's pvp healing broken (as of now).

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AbleOrator
01.01.2012 , 06:53 PM | #376
Quote: Originally Posted by Jooji View Post
You sound terrible. And you have the best gear? I have 2 pieces under 136. I doubt your gear>mine. I feel pretty powerful as an operative healer. I wish I had a better way to get people off me but other than that our healing is pretty powerful.
You just made my point. You feel powerful until you get someone on top of you. Even decent players know "Healers must die." You will be targeted. I doubt you can stay alive with an Assassin on you. I highly doubt it. You are only good until someone is on you? Thank you for helping me prove my point.

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WMDVenum
01.01.2012 , 06:53 PM | #377
Quote: Originally Posted by Amiracle View Post
This is the trend in pvp for healers.

1) You are ecpected to follow everyone else and be there healbot
2) You are expected to heal everyone else and tank the other team
3) You are suppose to defend yourself while tanking 3+ players and healing your team
4) You are not expected to survive one vs one when all healers are focussed fired all the time.

Best advice I can give is do not go healing and go dps with enough heals for yourself.

Healing is neither appreciated or wanted. Frag fests is what pvp has become in every game.
As a 50 sage I can do about 100k dmg per game and heal 300k per game. Hardly a healbot. The only problem I have is if a stealth class stuns me, they can bring me to about 50% before I can react. Healers are pretty beastly in this game.

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Jooji
01.01.2012 , 06:54 PM | #378
Quote: Originally Posted by AbleOrator View Post
You just made my point. You feel powerful until you get someone on top of you. Even decent players know "Healers must die." You will be targeted. I doubt you can stay alive with an Assassin on you. I highly doubt it. You are only good until someone is on you? Thank you for helping me prove my point.
Proving the point that you suck? If someone is on me I stun them and/or flash bang then los to heal myself up. That isn't hard. Shoot I can even use severe tendon and kite him while my hots/instants get myself back up.

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AbleOrator
01.01.2012 , 07:05 PM | #379
Quote: Originally Posted by Jooji View Post
Proving the point that you suck? If someone is on me I stun them and/or flash bang then los to heal myself up. That isn't hard. Shoot I can even use severe tendon and kite him while my hots/instants get myself back up.
an Opts hots and instants need improvement. The Instants, "surgical probe" heals for about 700-1000, a dps can do that much damage much faster than you can heal it. And now you try to be offensive with your post. I was making a point and you start trash talking. "proving you suck?" Very nice comeback. I see I have defeated you since you succumb to trying to bash me rather than make sense, or prove your point with clarity. I am saying healing needs to be buffed and healers survival ability should be higher in 1 on 1 situations. Enjoy your day sir. I wish you the best.

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CHRISGG
01.01.2012 , 07:08 PM | #380
Quote: Originally Posted by Jooji View Post
Proving the point that you suck? If someone is on me I stun them and/or flash bang then los to heal myself up. That isn't hard. Shoot I can even use severe tendon and kite him while my hots/instants get myself back up.
Uh you can do that once, and they can break the long cc (no one is gonna break the short stun when they're at 0 risk of dying and they know your long cc is up)

Then you die.

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