The end is nigh, the sky is falling, we are all doomed! and other such nonsense.

Your statement is both true and false, at it's peak WOW's gameplay was indeed the pinnacle that all other games reach for, but no matter how good it became, it's launch was a mess. I could not play my character for the majority of the first month it was so bad. Yes it became a very polished game, one that I invested 7 years in, and will always look back at fondly, but to distort the facts about it's launch is just plain old fashioned looking at things through rose colored glasses.

As bad as the launch was, I stuck through it and gave it a chance because it clearly had huge potential, many others did as well, and the rest is history, too bad that kind of thinking seems to have been left behind in the approximately 8 years since then.

there has to be a balance though. Can people not see the insanity we have reached? We, as a community, have reached a point where we are justifying that fact that products we are purchasing have defects.
It's ok its only just released, all new games have bugs, it'll be fixed and so on and so. In what other area of consumerism do you see that?
It's perfectly reasonable to expect a product we've bought from respected companies to be free from defects.
The fact we will happily shell out god knows how much and then defend the fact its flawed is insane.

Do I give a damn about what WoW played like 7 years ago? Even back then, WoW gameplay was miles better than SWTOR. Every time I logged back into WoW in the past 2 weeks and raided, I felt like I was 100% in control of my character, that can't be said in SWTOR. Why should I give Bioware 7 years to fix this horrible gameplay of SWTOR? I already cancelled this game and yes I'm going to go back to WoW, so all of you can **** about telling me to go back to WoW. Beside I'm already level 50 in this game and don't even ask me and the stupid end game.

I agree with your post, but would suggest that games are not made worse by a few subscribers complaining and requesting things. Instead, games are made worse when developers choose to make changes to things based off of a few complains/suggestions, and fail to take into account side effects and long-term affects those changes would have.

Na this game is not doomed i think.

But it is gonna rightfully take its place on the mmo market together with similar quality games such as Rift,warhammer and aion.

A little below them even imho.

Great Post OP!

Be careful what you wish for indeed.

Seriously though please fix;

1) Galactic Trade Market at the earliest possible convienience.

2) The time wasted getting from Ship > SpacePort > Planet > Quest Zone and vice versa.

3) The expense of Training/Repairing compared to the money you actually bring in.

Aside from that I am really enjoying the game so far.

Have to say I very much agree with the op and for the most part what he has been saying in this thread.

For those saying that SWTOR must match WoW, you really should think twice about that. Because once that happens people will complain to no end about it and as the op said, be careful of what you wish for. As not only it may happen, it can very well backfire on you. SWTOR isn't a game that is meant to give you everything on a sliver plate like WoW.

The point is that all the technical nonsense is just a distraction from the real issue when discussing a 'launch'. What good is a perfect technical launch if the game has serious problems? The server queues, the bugs, the features available etc as mentioned already don't really matter if the game isn't a joy to play.

People were just begging to play WOW at launch and that's why all the technical garbage such as server crashes didn't matter. I remember hundreds of people grouped at Tarren Mill in open world PVP before a pvp system existed simply because the game itself was a true joy to play - it was just fun, with perfect character responsiveness and an engaging combat system. If that was the case in this game no one would be here whining they would all be playing, ganking, getting ganked and doing stupid stuff... but they aren't - they are here, whining. This should tell you an awful lot.

The bottom line is that the fundamentals of this game are currently flawed. Combat doesn't really work well due to a myriad of difficult technical issues, and its not the first time we have seen this in a new MMO. It happened with Warhammer, it happened with Conan, it happened with Rift. I can basically tell this stuff the second I take control of my character in a new game, and I suspect many others can aswell. Its just no big deal in the first month because of the shiney new game with shiney new stuff to do. Then, when all that runs out or loses its luster, the game falls back onto its core mechanics and if they are buggered, the game hemorhages subscribers/players.

I suspect the average gamer doesn't really notice this process. Many of them whine about the lack of LFG tool or whatever because they think "Why is this game inferior to wow", and WOW has that function. They don't really know why the game doesn't 'feel' right as they can't see the forest for the trees. Just like the developers of all the recent MMOs who spend so much time on fluff that they release games with core combat mechanics that make Blizzard titter all the way to the bank.

Sorry its not. No mmo is bug free let alone a bug free on launch. I bet you $100 that GW2 will have bugs on launch and not only that, there be qq and cry babies on its forum at launch. I would also wager that there be kids like you on GW2 forum expecting a defect free game as well. WoW has bugs in it some which have been there since the launch of the game, a prime example is the rogue's vanish ability. Blizzard has clearly stated they will NEVER fix this, so instead they gave rogues smoke bomb which doesn't fix the problem at all just masks it.

I have said what I felt I needed to say, you naysayers can do as you will, I will not rise to some of the clearly baiting replies here. Good luck in the real world, I suspect you will need it.

Fact is MMO forums are cesspools and my post was not meant to change that, just to give my opinion, and as I said earlier we all know what they say about opinions.

I'm off to play the actual game, the forums are not the game, though it seems many play them as though they were lol.