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SWTOR= Complete Fail


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Jooji
01.01.2012 , 01:52 PM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by Zintiel View Post
I think the OP makes one point clear. That the 1-50 bracket is making some players quit and go to other games before they ever get to 50. These may not be smart or patient people, they may be people I would normally detest, but they are paying a monthly sub to this game.

I wish I was happier to see you go, but that's another lost sub to a rather obvious problem.
Anyone who quits the game before 50 because of warzone imbalance is just an idiot. While I was leveling to 50 I had HUGE wait times in Q because of being pre-order. Did this make me quit? hell no. People need to stop complaining before they hit 50. It's getting really freaken dumb.

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Dalanarious
01.01.2012 , 01:52 PM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by TheUndutchable View Post
this isnt a great game.

its far better than world of garbage, your just mad because you found a game that actually requries skill instead of one button wondering. so go back to wow now and let us adults playu in peace
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RedEnsign
01.01.2012 , 02:00 PM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by Jooji View Post
Anyone who quits the game before 50 because of warzone imbalance is just an idiot. While I was leveling to 50 I had HUGE wait times in Q because of being pre-order. Did this make me quit? hell no. People need to stop complaining before they hit 50. It's getting really freaken dumb.
It's not the imbalances simpleton. It's the cold hard facts that the early 50s get to farm lowbies in easy mode for their gear. When the majority of people get to 50, they have to go up vs the fully geared 50s who got that way thru zero skill of their own but by using game a mechanics crutch. People don't stick around for that. Name one PvP MMO where people stuck around for that. You can't. MMOs with pvp are a dime a dozen. This one is more flawed than most. Soon you'll be whining on the forums for cross server warzones cause there's no one to fight just like has happened all other MMOs. Good luck boys.
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RedEnsign
01.01.2012 , 02:02 PM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by RedEnsign View Post
It's not the imbalances simpleton. It's the cold hard facts that the early 50s get to farm lowbies in easy mode for their gear. When the majority of people get to 50, they have to go up vs the fully geared 50s who got that way thru zero skill of their own but by using game a mechanics crutch. People don't stick around for that. Name one PvP MMO where people stuck around for that. You can't. MMOs with pvp are a dime a dozen. This one is more flawed than most. Soon you'll be whining on the forums for cross server warzones cause there's no one to fight just like has happened all other MMOs. Good luck boys.
SKILL! You fight lowbies with a buff on them? What kind of simpleton world do you live in? Nevermind. I click on your name and forum ignore and I never have to see this kind of 3rd world voodoo logic again
The gamer in me hates that my boss, Bob I., sold EA the rights to make Star Wars games. The investor in me can retire early though due to Bob's decisions.

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Vraziel
01.01.2012 , 02:09 PM | #35
You're complaining about imbalance in pvp when this game hasn't even came out with arenas yet?

It's impossible to measure balance between classes in regular warzones because it has too many variables.

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Jooji
01.01.2012 , 02:11 PM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by RedEnsign View Post
It's not the imbalances simpleton. It's the cold hard facts that the early 50s get to farm lowbies in easy mode for their gear. When the majority of people get to 50, they have to go up vs the fully geared 50s who got that way thru zero skill of their own
I'd love to have competitive matches. I hate steamrolling over everyone.

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Zaskaszh
01.01.2012 , 02:19 PM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by dougan View Post
Why do people think we care when they quit?
It's the "Are you with me?" mentality, I think. They feel somehow that the game developer has to be punished, so they come on the forums to try and motivate people to quit. It's fairly obvious. It's also fairly pointless.
"Welcome to today's MMO generation mate, the single worst, entitled generation ever seen. - BegaTasty"

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Arumat
01.01.2012 , 02:56 PM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by Gdslk View Post
So every MMORPG have to start likes WoW Vanilla? for a game that was six years in production, do not put rated warfronts, desertion for leaving the game, leaving large premades destroy de PVP, and only one active map that is not well pvp, I was quite disappointed...
You put all your eggs in 1 basket and you have nothing else to release as "new content". Not to mention expansions. This is business 101

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loknasty
01.01.2012 , 03:05 PM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by tokosan View Post
WoW is the defining standard in MMOs today, and unfortunately SW:TOR fails to live up to wow's standard in many ways...

probably because WoW has had 6 years of development and three expansions.... whereas TOR hasn't even been around long enough to have a REAL patch.

want to compare games? Compare WoW on release... and not the release of BC or WotlK when most of the "LOL WOW IS MY FIRST MMO" people started playing, but vanilla.

Lets see:

Horrible UI? Check (mods made it slightly better... although they would typically crash your client)

Some PvP imbalance? Check

Bugs out the ***? Check

Server Queues? Well... not only massive server queues but massive downtimes.

The only difference is Vanilla WoW had zero rewards for pvp on release... now let me state this clearly (i may even make a thread just for it):

THE MINUTE YOU START REWARDING PEOPLE FOR PVP WITH GEAR IS THE MINUTE YOU RUIN IT.

A) you create a gear imbalance where time > victory %
B) you get people who are bad playing simply because they want the "shiny purplz"
C) World PvP gets ****ed, and any objective based system turns into a ring-around
D) you make PvE'ers participate in something they don't like or understand, and THEIR complaints wind up making it into patches.


THATS why TOR doesn't live up to WoW vanilla. WoW vanilla release was, for the most part, *********** awful... but having zero rewards for pvp other than the joy of winning made it awesome until Blizzard bent it over and viciously ***** it.
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Darth_Gao_Gao
01.01.2012 , 03:11 PM | #40
OP, your syntax indicates that you are of either relatively young age, or low intelligence. please consider this when making another thread, thanks.