Never seen a valid argument against the LFD

I played WoW before the lfd, and after. In fact I played WoW on day 1 (a little before day 1 actually). I never saw this "tight community" on any server I was on, whether it was a PvP server or not. As the OP said, the game at release was rampant with ninja looters, griefers, etc etc.

Just what is this "leveling guild" you speak of? There's no such thing. Not in that game, not in this game, not in any game. That's because very very few guilds are filled with players that have endless alts all at varying levels. Which would be needed for a guild to be a "leveling guild".

What there was at first was guilds where everyone started around the same time and some leveled together. That only lasted for a couple of months though. Then it was join a guild and occasionally someone in that guild was around your level as you leveled, but most often you were spamming for a group.

This "no LFD tool lets you get to know others on the planet you're on" stuff is PURE horsepucky. I'm almost level 30 now, and have added people that I've finally gotten groups with to my friends list after every 2+, 4+, and Flashpoint. I've only ever seen one of those players at or around my level again, and when I waved, the player just ran on by without even noticing.

Getting to the appropriate level to do a Flashpoint should have one tingling with excitement. As it is now, the only tingling you get is in your finger tips from typing "LFG for xxxxx", and in your backside from sitting in Fleet while you wait.

All not having a LFD tool is doing for the community is having players fill the general chat with the bi-products of being bored and frustrated waiting to get in a group. The chat is already equal to the worst you would have seen on any WoW server just after release, and believe me, it was bad.

"Barrens Chat" didn't become the nefarious legend for being filled with dubious characters it is for nothing.

I suggest you go back to school for reading comprehension.

If you dont want to stay and find a group you wont have a flashpoint run and this is a good way... it will make you decide ''Do i want it or not'' if its not it obviously isnt worth as much for you as it should be.

Good luck

You implied someone is lazy in a videogame for wanting a feature. I'm just pointing out that videogames in general arent a productive hobbie. Value coming from time spent on something sounds great and all but once again we're discussing a videogame. A videogame is supposed to be entertainment. If you want to spend extra time not doing something productive like running all the way back to the fleet then so be it. I'll take advantage of insta porting by using quick travel or if its off cooldown my Emergency Fleet Pass. Yup i'm lazy.

So why not ask for a full lvl 50 with every gear available... that would be a good feature huh?

For different people entertainment means different... even inside the same thing/game

BW stated LFD is bad for server community and if they said so i think this crying needs to stop and deal with it and learn to communicate and make friends lists. Once you hit 50 you will have tons on friends list to play anyway

Those who are saying WoW never had a sense of community are only deluding themselves. I played on Alleria during Vanilla, and left the server just before BC when the offered free transfers off to Baelgun. Alleria was a HUGE server alliance side, after all, everyone wanted to be where <Risen> was.

We had a great community Horde side. You knew who the ninjas/chinese gold farmers were, you knew who could tank and who could heal, and you knew who had the key to UBRS (and sometimes you had to pay that person to come open the door ><). You friended people who were good, and if you were good, you had no issues whatsoever in getting a group. Hell, the whole server even banded together during the opening of AQ so that Failure would not get the Scepter to open the gates. Everyone (both alliance and horde) helped Ts and <Blighted> get the job done.

LFD was the final nail in the server community coffin. Cross realm BG's, paid name changes, and paid server transfers all had a hand in the destruction of what was a good server community.

I've never seen a valid argument for a LFD, aside from "I want my group to be made for me because it takes too much effort".

So true! My original server, Throium Brotherhood had an incredible community, and a lot of cross-faction player friendships were made because of pvp! Once cross-server battlegrounds came in, the downhill slide began.

There aren't any valid arguments against it.

Wanting to preserve that type of communities from EQ and UO don't count.

Nope that would be a bad feature. The fact that they all ready have instant porting in the game makes arguing against having that with a feature mute. I dont want cross server LFG which is exactly what Georg Zoeller was stating that cross server detracts from community.

OP, was there reallly a need to start another thread on the same subject so soon after your first?