LFD needed very much

Regarding teleporting, that just gets on my **** because it's lazy and nobody ever has any idea where the anything is.

This having to know and interact with people on your own server built a strong server community. I recall /who 60 /who 70 and knowing everyone by either name or recognition. Those days are gone.

Except it's not lazy, it's called efficient and time saving, and if people don't know where stuff is, it's because they don't want to.

ef·fi·cient/iˈfiSHənt/
Adjective:

Achieving maximum productivity with minimum wasted effort or expense.
Working in a well-organized and competent way.

la·zy/ˈlāzē/
Adjective:

Unwilling to work or use energy: "he was too lazy to cook".
Characterized by lack of effort or activity.

lets examine these words. . .






on the other hand. . .





So you being lazy and not /wanting/ to learn where a particular quest is at, is 'maximizing productivity'? It's not very productive if its just given to you

LFD makes it easier to find groups, yes, but that is only a tiiiiiiny fraction of the entire package you get.
You remove liability, reputation, choice, population won't spread out and you remove the need to talk to anyone at all. Just look at WoW and you'll see that this is exactly what happened when they launched it in mid-WotLK, unless you're a Blizz fanboi or just plain ignorant.

I see this tired argument all the time. Not sure what magic wand your going to wave to make people accountable.

I seriously don't get it. There was bad people before and after WotLK. Not sure what exactly you think you can do to someone who's a d-bag to you in a dungeon. Ruin his rep? Really? How exactly? I played Vanilla WoW and I didn't see one case of anyone being punished for bad behavoir. I may have saw someone say something in chat about so-and-so being a ninja but I doubt the population at large took notice or would remember a few days later. I think your memory of this is...distorted to put it mildly.

Instead it's you and me being punished. You wait an hour to get a group together. Finally you get set and zone into your dungeon (Flashpoint) and low and behold, the tank is a big D-bag. He leaves and the group bails and you have another hour wait to look for a group.

Yes good times indeed. You want friends, make a good guild. You want to run Flashpoints.. make a LF tool.

Happy New Year.

I see this tired argument all the time. Not sure what magic wand your going to wave to make people accountable.

I seriously don't get it. There was bad people before and after WotLK. Not sure what exactly you think you can do to someone who's a d-bag to you in a dungeon. Ruin his rep? Really? How exactly? I played Vanilla WoW and I didn't see one case of anyone being punished for bad behavoir. I may have saw someone say something in chat about so-and-so being a ninja but I doubt the population at large took notice or would remember a few days later. I think your memory of this is...distorted to put it mildly.

Instead it's you and me being punished. You wait an hour to get a group together. Finally you get set and zone into your dungeon (Flashpoint) and low and behold, the tank is a big D-bag. He leaves and the group bails and you have another hour wait to look for a group.

Yes good times indeed. You want friends, make a good guild. You want to run Flashpoints.. make a LF tool.

Happy New Year.

Really you never saw anyone develop a reputation from running dungeons or raids? You must be captain oblivious. Hell I remember back during BC posting up a "Retrix and Martyrofsand LFG 3 AoE XX dungeon" and getting very quick responses. You can make the argument that it was because we where both tank and healer and while there is some validity to that there is also validity to the reputation. We both got tells through-out the day asking if we where going to be running anything, we both had our lists of DPS we liked who knew what they where doing and made life easier, we also had **** lists of DPS who didn't have a snowballs chance in hell of getting into one of our runs again.

While not everyone will get a server wide reputation they will still develop when groups are kept on a server only basis and it makes for a much better community when people are appreciated, respected and remembered when they excel and shunned and ostracized when they are *******es or simply refused to learn what they are doing.