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Why are people telling me to give this game more time?

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Why are people telling me to give this game more time?

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Blackwater
01.01.2012 , 02:37 AM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by OddballEasyEight View Post
Very few games these days come out bug free, i dont know why people hold SW:TOR to a different standard than other games.
Because it's the most expensive and hyped MMO in history

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Jaku
01.01.2012 , 02:42 AM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackwater View Post
Because it's the most expensive and hyped MMO in history
Maybe the most expensive, but GW2 is definitely the most hyped.
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Wren_Atticus
01.01.2012 , 02:44 AM | #33
It's not just this game or even MMOs. Thanks to the internet, most games are allowed to be released as "broken" or "incomplete" because they can be patched or DLC sold to the gamer. I think the idea that a game can be released as such, and gamers have shown they are okay with that, has led to a decrease in workmanship in game releases.

If gamers stopped making excuses for game studios and stopped buying unfinished products, that would force studios to step it up and put out more polished products.
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CygnusMX
01.01.2012 , 02:45 AM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by Skern View Post
Don't stop reading there please. I know how many of you like to stop reading negative opinions early(Also .)
Actually people gravitate towards negativity, its why this thread will be 30 pages long or more.

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Rafkin
01.01.2012 , 02:47 AM | #35
This is next gen gaming...where you pay $15/month to beta test a game. Hell, the beta versions worked BETTER than the live version. At least in beta I could chat with my party and search the forums.

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Blackwater
01.01.2012 , 02:47 AM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by Jaku View Post
Maybe the most expensive, but GW2 is definitely the most hyped.
GW2 has hardcore fans, but GW2 didn't block traffic in Times Square to advertise the release of their game

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Jaku
01.01.2012 , 02:50 AM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackwater View Post
GW2 has hardcore fans, but GW2 didn't block traffic in Times Square to advertise the release of their game
Eh, I guess there is different types of hype.

Most people interested in GW2 see it as the Jesus of MMO's, while for TOR people were just toting Bioware and Star Wars.

I do think the GW2 fanyboys are too hardcore for their own good, though.
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ElementalCrisis
01.01.2012 , 02:50 AM | #38
This game wasn't ready for launch, it was extremely close but not ready yet. In a perfect world, we would of seen this game released sometime around this summer. However BW and by extension EA can't continue working on a game that's been generating zero profit for 5+ years. It's also no surprise that EA and BW released this game during the end of Q1 of the 2012 fiscal year so they can boost to their investors about how much money they made during Q1.

It's been stated a couple times already but games, especially MMO's are expected to have weekly patches. I guarantee you that during the last few months of development, certain bugs were put on a patch list to be addressed after release to give the developers more time to focus on more important issues. Should we have to wait for a game we paid $60+ to work as intended? No. However its the world we live in.

There's my 2 cents on the topic. Now time to play some more!

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hocuspocus
01.01.2012 , 02:52 AM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by Skern View Post
I paid 60 dollars for this video game (a finished product) and found that it was riddled with bugs and stuttering PvP (I play as a 30 sniper and many times my abilities cancel for no reason, causing me to die and evently /ragequit). I get irritated when I get sold something thats not functional. Don't stop reading there please. I know how many of you like to stop reading negative opinions early.

I come on these forums to trying to find a reason why the game was released like this; no devs respond and people just tell me to "give it time"? According to some scholarly gentlemen on these forums, apparently MMOs are always released in a crappy state. Why not complain to the companies so that they stop being released in a crappy state? Wouldn't that make sense for our futures as gamers?

Maybe BioWare/EA does not have any interest in their customers and they made a Star Wars MMO because they knew it would sell even if it was a flop?

Maybe they are releasing a bunch of new content (e.g. http://www.swtor.com/blog/sneak-peek-james-ohlen) just as everyone's free month that came with their SWTOR Christmas present runs out in an attempt to catch a few of them for another month or two?

Maybe they added Starfox style "space combat" for a little extra PR?

I feel like BioWare/EA is doing just enough to slip by and make a profit. Hell, even when getting personal with a BioWare representative (see: http://www.reddit.com/r/swtor/commen...ager_for_star/) we still can't get a straight answer. It seems eventually is a popular word around here. What people need to understand is that "eventually" fixing a product is not going to cut it in a competitive market. I'm also reading that there are a number of fixes were stated in beta testing that were not fixed upon release. That is the most disappointing issue for me that leads me to believe BioWare/EA just used the beta as advertising and hoping to get people hooked before release. If bugs aren't fixed in beta, then when are they fixed? In engineering, you know what happens when mistakes are not found in beta stages of development and a product is released? PEOPLE DIE. (See: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35110966...erators-stick/)

Ok, well people may not die from this video game. They could waste $60, $80, $150, which is close.... I guess??.. No. Anyways.

So were my expectations too high when I expecting a video game on the shelf to be fully functional? Or should I always just wait a year after the release of an MMO to buy it? I want to know your guys opinions on this. I feel like companies should be held responsible when they rush products out the door like this and the customers are the ones that suffer.



(Also releasing a game without high textures??? I want what ever they were smoking.)
Yeah because Skyrim didn't have any bugs, fallout didn't have any bugs, wow didn't have any bugs, and the 360 barely breaks. Two things seem to be happening here one a troll has come out from under the bridge because his need for venting overwhelmed him. Second someone may have not understood when they say recommended system specs they mean hey you should think twice if your computer only meets our minimum specs.

There are some glitches in this game that annoy me, but it is also a very fun game and I have played enough of it to call this post what it is rubish. If you are claiming this game is not fully functional then neither were the other games I listed prior. Now I know MW3 probably works real good for you, but keep in mind it also lasts 7 hours if you take your time on veteran. As far as its multiplayer goes it is not without it glitches an faults.

Also I must say the engineer comparison was quite good, but a bit dramatic and I was just wondering if you have ever gotten to beta test a bridge? Sounds fun.

Thanks for the amusing post happy new year!

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Kekuhaupio
01.01.2012 , 02:52 AM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by gentquality View Post
and that was 2004 this is 2012 now.

Back when honda accord first came out there were no powersteering, or automatic transmission. Give it time BMW will eventually install powersteering into their cars and put automatic transmission. In the meantime, keep giving them money monthly and hope that everything will be ok.

yes and with that 8 year difference Bioware has released a game that has launched better than WoW. Now if Swtor's Launch was the same as WoW's 8 years ago sure i'd agree with ya but, while Bioware is not perfect they have done their best and i think it quite good.
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