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Why are people telling me to give this game more time?

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Why are people telling me to give this game more time?

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Skern
01.01.2012 , 01:38 AM | #1
I paid 60 dollars for this video game (a finished product) and found that it was riddled with bugs and stuttering PvP (I play as a 30 sniper and many times my abilities cancel for no reason, causing me to die and evently /ragequit). I get irritated when I get sold something thats not functional. Don't stop reading there please. I know how many of you like to stop reading negative opinions early.

I come on these forums to trying to find a reason why the game was released like this; no devs respond and people just tell me to "give it time"? According to some scholarly gentlemen on these forums, apparently MMOs are always released in a crappy state. Why not complain to the companies so that they stop being released in a crappy state? Wouldn't that make sense for our futures as gamers?

Maybe BioWare/EA does not have any interest in their customers and they made a Star Wars MMO because they knew it would sell even if it was a flop?

Maybe they are releasing a bunch of new content (e.g. http://www.swtor.com/blog/sneak-peek-james-ohlen) just as everyone's free month that came with their SWTOR Christmas present runs out in an attempt to catch a few of them for another month or two?

Maybe they added Starfox style "space combat" for a little extra PR?

I feel like BioWare/EA is doing just enough to slip by and make a profit. Hell, even when getting personal with a BioWare representative (see: http://www.reddit.com/r/swtor/commen...ager_for_star/) we still can't get a straight answer. It seems eventually is a popular word around here. What people need to understand is that "eventually" fixing a product is not going to cut it in a competitive market. I'm also reading that there are a number of fixes were stated in beta testing that were not fixed upon release. That is the most disappointing issue for me that leads me to believe BioWare/EA just used the beta as advertising and hoping to get people hooked before release. If bugs aren't fixed in beta, then when are they fixed? In engineering, you know what happens when mistakes are not found in beta stages of development and a product is released? PEOPLE DIE. (See: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35110966...erators-stick/)

Ok, well people may not die from this video game. They could waste $60, $80, $150, which is close.... I guess??.. No. Anyways.

So were my expectations too high when I expecting a video game on the shelf to be fully functional? Or should I always just wait a year after the release of an MMO to buy it? I want to know your guys opinions on this. I feel like companies should be held responsible when they rush products out the door like this and the customers are the ones that suffer.



(Also releasing a game without high textures??? I want what ever they were smoking.)

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Darkevilhum
01.01.2012 , 01:41 AM | #2
The game is broken in many places. Stop playing. Hide under a rock until Guild Wars 2 is out. Play GW2. Come back to SW:TOR and realise nothings changed. Back to GW2. +500 light side points.

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aznthecapn
01.01.2012 , 01:43 AM | #3
This is an MMO. The publishing companies who make online games (that's EA, not Bioware) have realized that a game like this is easily and frequently patched. They know they can just bring down the servers once a week and throw things on it. This means they have become lazy with the development process and when something is "close" to done near a solid publishing date (early Nov, early Dec, etc) they rush it out knowing they can just bear the brunt of the anger for the first free month and patch in fixes.

Its how the industry works. Its sad, but there it is. Be patient, it'll get better.

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Hushups
01.01.2012 , 01:43 AM | #4
I understand the idea of giving a game more time. I don't understand the idea that you have to stay subscribed to a game while you give it more time.

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Vitellius
01.01.2012 , 01:44 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Skern View Post
So were my expectations too high when I expecting a video game on the shelf to be fully functional? Or should I always just wait a year after the release of an MMO to buy it?
Yes and Yes. Seriously. There is no magic here. You got what you got. You already have the answer that is right for you. You just feel like venting here. I can understand that. Just face reality. This game has not lived up to your expectations. Cancel your sub and check it out in 6 months to a year. Or look for something that you feel is better for you.

Not trying to be a troll or anything, it just seem to me that you are so unhappy that leaving would be the best thing for you. I hope you find a game that you can really enjoy and is perfect for you.
"Smoke me a kipper...i'll be back for breakfast." -Ace Rimmer

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Leggomy
01.01.2012 , 01:45 AM | #6
Noone is saying you have to give it more time and still pay. Cancel and come back once its been polished more. You are not forced to subscribe. Also just FYI no MMO is ever "finished". If you do not like the game then by all means leave and check back later when they have had time to fix things.

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TheLightningLord
01.01.2012 , 01:46 AM | #7
Give it time. Seriously, it's been two weeks. MMO's are not like single player games that are basically complete when they are released. They are an ever evolving, ever changing game that is a constant work in progress. NO MMO has ever released finished or perfect, not even the beloved WoW. As far as MMO launches go, this game has had one of the smoothest ones to date. It can only get better from here.

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Zeodic
01.01.2012 , 01:49 AM | #8
Dead Horse + Stick = thread ...
Dont forget to always pick your Nodes .....

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twistedtime
01.01.2012 , 01:51 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Zeodic View Post
Dead Horse + Stick = thread ...
Good sir i quite like dead horse with stick threads. Where else can we discuss the same topic over and over and over again like a episode of the twilight zone.
You have not died until I consent..........*Warning Counter: 1*

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Landara
01.01.2012 , 01:52 AM | #10
If i were the CEO of the company, and I had came to you and said:

"Joe, this game is 99% DONE. We have a small amount of relatively minor bugs still to squash but it is VERY fun to play, and nearly stable. We estimate that it will take us at least 5 more months of internal testing to get it perfect. Or we could release it now in near perfect condition and use the data from millions of subscribers to help squash these bugs. In the end, we'll be done in half the time and you'll get to play the nearly finished produck 6 months earlier, what would you rather we did"

Do you really expect ANYONE on these or any other forums to believe that you would have told us to wait? When you play an MMO at launch, you know(or should if you aren't retarded) that every MMO in history is released as soon as possible and that they are never quite done. Therefore by buying it week one you are agreeing to deal with these bugs until they are gone. It's that simple now stop whining and go play WoW it's virtually bug free.