Trevor_the_Bruce Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Thanks for shafting us for pre ordering early! Can you think about anyone other than yourself? BW makes changes based of what people like you were posting, things that will save credits for millions of characters, and all you can think of is to b**** and moan about your spending maybe 100k credits retraining skills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlrikFassbauer Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 (edited) I had really wished they had reduced the costs just for 90 % - 99 % , but not completeloy removing them, because removiong the costs completely is a little bit too cheap for my taste. I think that havinng to pay 40-60 Credits per skill would still be good. But apart from that, I'm deeply impressed by thge (re)move. Edited December 5, 2014 by AlrikFassbauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justinplainview Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Can you think about anyone other than yourself? BW makes changes based of what people like you were posting, things that will save credits for millions of characters, and all you can think of is to b**** and moan about your spending maybe 100k credits retraining skills? try millions across multiple toons and over exponentially more than 100k credits on one single toon. You can say that this is a great change for the game and an incredibly poor timed announcement that shafts pre order players. End of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs_zoltan Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Few exploiters > houndreds or thousands of unhappy subscribers. I don't care if someone exploits, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorgenBlue Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Can you think about anyone other than yourself? BW makes changes based of what people like you were posting, things that will save credits for millions of characters, and all you can think of is to b**** and moan about your spending maybe 100k credits retraining skills? 100k credits.. lol? It's 800k plus for a Sorc 55 - 60 and I have leveled Several of those. I'm not thinking about just myself but everyone else who pre ordered early for early access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor_the_Bruce Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 so glad I just spent my 2 million credits on training skills then. Yet didn't spend millions of credits getting your characters leveled during 12xXP? You sure are grateful aren't you (so wish there was a sarcasm font), and I doubt it took you 2 million credits to retrain skills. Its not that much. Maybe 50k per character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlrikFassbauer Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 I don't care, I had just adapted to the costs. "If that's what the trainers want, then I'll pay it." I fear that I'm far too honest for this world ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno_Tarshil Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Thanks for making this change and I'm glad I held off on buying skills because I was saving for Revan Reborn pieces, this is wonderful news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Wicked Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Yet didn't spend millions of credits getting your characters leveled during 12xXP? You sure are grateful aren't you (so wish there was a sarcasm font), and I doubt it took you 2 million credits to retrain skills. Its not that much. Maybe 50k per character. Now you're trolling for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justinplainview Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Yet didn't spend millions of credits getting your characters leveled during 12xXP? You sure are grateful aren't you (so wish there was a sarcasm font), and I doubt it took you 2 million credits to retrain skills. Its not that much. Maybe 50k per character. The characters I have spent credits on? They weren't leveled in 12xp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyaniteD Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Timing is everything. Sure, but counting from today, when would have been a good time, in the light of the original problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artanisia Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Thank you, that is awesome! Already spent about a million creds, but *meh* can easily make that back by questing and chest hunting on Rishi. *throws confetti* *makes plans to do mostly Stronghold stuff until the next patch* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadin Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Yet didn't spend millions of credits getting your characters leveled during 12xXP? You sure are grateful aren't you (so wish there was a sarcasm font), and I doubt it took you 2 million credits to retrain skills. Its not that much. Maybe 50k per character. This is a post from someone truly clueless. Your assumptions are way off base and probably should stop responding in this thread if that's all you're going to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justinplainview Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Sure, but counting from today, when would have been a good time, in the light of the original problem? I mean without trolling or asking to turn back time, December 2. Should have been obvious by that time. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudenfusz Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Hey folks, Let’s talk a bit about training costs for your characters abilities. One thing has become clear from the player feedback in not only this thread, but since launch: players do not like training costs. It is a situation where every level you will see your hard earned credits go to a holographic Hutt doctor in order to make yourself a bit stronger. We have been talking about this topic internally for quite some time and when you add player feedback to the mix one thing becomes clear… We should make training costs a thing of the past. Since launch, you have spent millions of credits training skills across your characters. As of our maintenance next week all ability training costs will be completely removed from the game, forever! What does this mean for you? This means that starting next week, instead of spending your credits on training skills, you can now spend them on literally, anything else you want. Note that this only affects ability training, you will still need to spend credits to training schematics for Crew Skills, etc. Thank you again for your feedback. -eric Thanks for the change and thanks for letting us know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelersWay Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Hey folks, Let’s talk a bit about training costs for your characters abilities. One thing has become clear from the player feedback in not only this thread, but since launch: players do not like training costs. It is a situation where every level you will see your hard earned credits go to a holographic Hutt doctor in order to make yourself a bit stronger. We have been talking about this topic internally for quite some time and when you add player feedback to the mix one thing becomes clear… We should make training costs a thing of the past. Since launch, you have spent millions of credits training skills across your characters. As of our maintenance next week all ability training costs will be completely removed from the game, forever! What does this mean for you? This means that starting next week, instead of spending your credits on training skills, you can now spend them on literally, anything else you want. Note that this only affects ability training, you will still need to spend credits to training schematics for Crew Skills, etc. Thank you again for your feedback. -eric Wow, very pleased with this news. Great job on listening to player feedback, guys and gals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transcendent Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 ... As a result, we will not be providing refunds for the cost of training. Hope that clarifies our thoughts on the situation. -eric No issues there, thanks for the heads up so I don't spend credits on any training between now and then. It's not as though it stops me levelling A good change going forward, for all of the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTlNNl Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Sure, but counting from today, when would have been a good time, in the light of the original problem? This isn't something new that came out of no where. It should have been Dec 2. If they made this decision from SCRATCH between Dec 2 and today, I would be surprised. Actually, I take that back- I wouldn't be surprised after this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorgenBlue Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 The big problem here with not refunding players who leveled 55 - 60 during early access is that for early access is that your loyal players who pre ordered early and put time into early access ate this cost. The players who did not pre order in time for early access are not going to have this cost. While I understand not refunding all 1 - 60 training costs due to it injecting a lot of money into the game, 55 - 60 should be refunded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndursinger Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Hey folks, Let’s talk a bit about training costs for your characters abilities. One thing has become clear from the player feedback in not only this thread, but since launch: players do not like training costs. It is a situation where every level you will see your hard earned credits go to a holographic Hutt doctor in order to make yourself a bit stronger. We have been talking about this topic internally for quite some time and when you add player feedback to the mix one thing becomes clear… We should make training costs a thing of the past. Since launch, you have spent millions of credits training skills across your characters. As of our maintenance next week all ability training costs will be completely removed from the game, forever! What does this mean for you? This means that starting next week, instead of spending your credits on training skills, you can now spend them on literally, anything else you want. Note that this only affects ability training, you will still need to spend credits to training schematics for Crew Skills, etc. Thank you again for your feedback. -eric .......................................... I find this resolution positively acceptable. I would like to applaud such a bold move as well. We subscribers pay for this entertainment outlet and this not only shows your acknowledgement of this fact but your endeavorment to insure that our desires ,in gaming, are fulfilled fairly. Nothing is perfect but the quest for such shows true loyalty to us,your customers. I would also hope that in the future ,such calamities will be sorted in beta as opposed to the brunt of the chaos falling on the heads of the pre-cash paying access customers that either were delayed in playing or expunged of virtual savings. FYI-demograghic- 47year old male entrepreneur . Was "Forgottensinger" in beta, been a consistent subscriber since launch. ..and due to these actions,will continue to be. And your welcome for the feedback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fractal_Eye Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Well, this is welcome news! I had just gotten one of my Bounty Hunters to 60 when I noticed the tweet about it, so I didn't bother training her up. Although I already spent over 1.2 million on the 2 characters I got to 60 before her, at least I'll save at least 12 million on all my others. As some have said, it does seem kind of <expletive>y to not refund the costs incurred during the early access, though. I'm not worried about it too much though, but it certainly seems kind of poor on your part towards the early access people. Again, I'm not angry about it (and certainly won't threaten to sue/quit/march on Austin or anything), but it is another poor decision in a long line of ones, IMO. Meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viraxis Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 If you arent going to refund for people who already got screwed over, then keep the credit sink in to be fair. With less credits, we are now at a disadvantage leveling crew skills, making items for sell on AH, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achromatis Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 /popcorn It's just worthless game currency guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafkin Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 So early access got us screwed? Well done... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiesu Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Thank you! Quite literally spent a million per character on skill costs only trough new lvls. Wasnt looking to spend the same amount on the rest of my 20 alts too. Much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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