Zoom_VI Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 So my number one pet peeve right now is all these bombers putting out useless garbage repair drones that don't give ammo. Like really, drones that only heal are useless. Why? Because the only time I want heals is if I'm dying and if I'm dying I don't have time to go sit next to a drone, and if I'm not in the process of dying then I'm not going to waste time healing. Repairs shields???? My shields repair themselves thank you. Now ammo is something I'll stop for, because ammo is something I need. But if your not dropping ammo drone then stop wasting my time with these useless drones. Like seriously I get all excited when I see a repair drone, but them I'm like fck you bomber when I realize its not giving ammo. Moar ammo drones plz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Streven- Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Agreed that ammo is wanted but in a tight TDM game healing drones equal win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhelm Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 So, last night I was (Star) Guarding B in Mesa, full health/shields, And the repair drone kept attaching to me. It wasn't until now, reading your post that I realize it was ammo resupply. Lol. So some bombers are using it. I just wish I would have known at the time, so I could thank them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildwolfs Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 So my number one pet peeve right now is all these bombers putting out useless garbage repair drones that don't give ammo. Like really, drones that only heal are useless. Why? Because the only time I want heals is if I'm dying and if I'm dying I don't have time to go sit next to a drone, and if I'm not in the process of dying then I'm not going to waste time healing. Repairs shields???? My shields repair themselves thank you. Now ammo is something I'll stop for, because ammo is something I need. But if your not dropping ammo drone then stop wasting my time with these useless drones. Like seriously I get all excited when I see a repair drone, but them I'm like fck you bomber when I realize its not giving ammo. Moar ammo drones plz. When I fly my bomber I have given up telling team members where I will drop repair drones wich REFILL ammo as they never seem to be botherd about it. ( Chipmonk on the red eclipse btw ) so I guess you could say it works both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEATHICIDE Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 The only times I find myself running out of ammo is during lopsided matches where I am simply hunter-killing the entire time, and even then it takes some time to run out. I spam rocket pods, or so I had thought, when I fly my scout, and if I am allowed to run out, it means I have already killed enough enemies to let me know, I really don't need more ammo, the poor guys can't keep up as it is. Healing drone that heals shields however, well if there is a swarm somewhere and the battle is going 50/50, the team that gets shield boosts to all theirs is clearly taking the advantage. That is why I use the heals drone. If someone can't manage their rocket pods properly, or if we are winning so hard we are able to run out of concussion missiles, I don't really care if someone runs out of ammo, I'd rather keep the emergency heals in my pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armonddd Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 A dead enemy can't damage shields. A ship without secondary ammo has a significantly harder time landing kills. The choice is obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrabs Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I agree with OP. There's just too few players who value ammo higher than shield regen, which is really sad :< Especially since double volley clusters and rocket pods are so strong right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altheran Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 So my number one pet peeve right now is all these bombers putting out useless garbage repair drones that don't give ammo. Like really, drones that only heal are useless. Why? Because the only time I want heals is if I'm dying and if I'm dying I don't have time to go sit next to a drone, and if I'm not in the process of dying then I'm not going to waste time healing. Repairs shields???? My shields repair themselves thank you. Now ammo is something I'll stop for, because ammo is something I need. But if your not dropping ammo drone then stop wasting my time with these useless drones. Like seriously I get all excited when I see a repair drone, but them I'm like fck you bomber when I realize its not giving ammo. Moar ammo drones plz. I feel you. Really. I don't often run out of ammo on my StarGuard, but when I do I feel the lack of power. In addition, I'm using a build where I have shields that refill very fast, and easily. I really don't have a need for a shield repairing drone, but yet anyone I've been grouped with use the shield repair option or don't seem to have it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin_Kelvar Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 The only times I find myself running out of ammo is during lopsided matches where I am simply hunter-killing the entire time, and even then it takes some time to run out. This pretty much for me as well. I would like it though if repair drones had a distinct icon on the minimap though. They've kept me in the fight plenty of times but sometimes they're the devil to find (at least I haven't seen repair drones getting special icons on the minimap). I still think though that they should add a repair/ammo drone to the capital ships, especially now with TDM since the time spent idling while you get repaired/resupplied is probably preferable for the team than getting blown out of the sky or having less combat capabilities (either way you basically are "respawning" except idling to get repaired/resupplied doesn't cost your team a point whereas dying does). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luneward Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I still think though that they should add a repair/ammo drone to the capital ships, especially now with TDM since the time spent idling while you get repaired/resupplied is probably preferable for the team than getting blown out of the sky or having less combat capabilities (either way you basically are "respawning" except idling to get repaired/resupplied doesn't cost your team a point whereas dying does). Eh, doubt they'll add that. You can generally expect to find a repair drone at a sat in a domination game. While I know it is time consuming, you just need to look for a weapon powerup to refill your ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altheran Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) Eh, doubt they'll add that. You can generally expect to find a repair drone at a sat in a domination game. While I know it is time consuming, you just need to look for a weapon powerup to refill your ammo. That's not the same kind of "ammo refill". The Power-up refills blasters and improves their regen. A drone refills the stock of missiles. Edited February 16, 2014 by Altheran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vid-szhite Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 That's not the same kind of "ammo refill". The Power-up improves the blasters' regen. A drone refills the stock of missiles. Actually, weapon power ups also completely refill your missile ammo too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altheran Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Actually, weapon power ups also completely refill your missile ammo too. What ? I mean, really ?! I guess I'm too busy actually fighting to see a little number change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zharik Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Honestly, the tier 3 choices for repair drones are pretty lopsided. If people are picking the shield regen, they're gonna lose that dogfight (that they must be in to need that ability) anyway. Now in a tight grouping of 3 friends vs multiple enemies? It *might* make a difference. Rearm is useful a lot more often. Repair drones are wasted if put out in the middle of a dogfight, as they die pretty fast. They are most useful to repair/rearm while the other team is respawning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verain Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 When I'm in a big dogfight as fleet support, the shield repair is obviously superior. The problem is that a repair drone doesn't last 10 seconds under such conditions, as the green numbers are too important to ignore. A drone a BIT out of the way, or in LOS, can benefit this- again, the shield repair is definitely better for node defense. The thing is, there's so many ways to get your ammo back. In TDM you can find a yellow. In domination, the ammo refills are at every asteroid! That being said, I'm likely switching it to ammo soon, specifically for cluster missile scouts and rocket pod scouts, and I will try calling out the location when I drop it and see who buzzes by. I bet the good pilots will be very happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zharik Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) The thing is, there's so many ways to get your ammo back. In TDM you can find a yellow. In domination, the ammo refills are at every asteroid! That's like saying gas stations are a waste of time when you can just ram your nearly empty car into a wall to get a full tank... Edited February 17, 2014 by Zharik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verain Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 That's like saying gas stations are a waste of time when you can just ram your nearly empty car into a wall to get a full tank... If doing that spawned me nearer my destination in the same car but newer and with all flaws removed, I would absolutely do that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armonddd Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) If doing that spawned me nearer my destination in the same car but newer and with all flaws removed, I would absolutely do that too. It only spawns you closer if you know a guy with an expensive SUV that's generous enough to share his respawn. Except he's a gangsta and it ain't easy, so sometimes he dead and you have to spawn back home. I wouldn't want to spawn back home halfway through the 700 mile drive to my grandparents'. Edited February 17, 2014 by Armonddd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verain Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 It's very common to want to be at A or C and not be near that though. I'm not saying it's a panacea, but neither is flying to wherever the repair drone is and sitting there for twelve seconds, then flying wherever you SHOULD be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadishist Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 So my number one pet peeve right now is all these bombers putting out useless garbage repair drones that don't give ammo. Like really, drones that only heal are useless. Why? Because the only time I want heals is if I'm dying and if I'm dying I don't have time to go sit next to a drone, and if I'm not in the process of dying then I'm not going to waste time healing. Repairs shields???? My shields repair themselves thank you. Now ammo is something I'll stop for, because ammo is something I need. But if your not dropping ammo drone then stop wasting my time with these useless drones. Like seriously I get all excited when I see a repair drone, but them I'm like fck you bomber when I realize its not giving ammo. Moar ammo drones plz. Feel free to roll a bomber then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom_VI Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 Feel free to roll a bomber then. Yes, but bombers don't use ammo (except the bad ones with loltorps) so if I rolled a bomber, I would have no need for that ammo refill drone. And if I have no need for that ammo refill drone, then I want to go back to my scout, but then I would need ammo, which would make me want to have a ammo drone.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verain Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I 100% believe concussions are superior to seeker mines. Torps are a bit less useful, but still let you run fleet support. Remember, there's two bombers- the one with the mines doesn't get the repair drone at all. The dronelayer DOES get it, and it really benefits a lot from concussions, because its right click options are concussion, proton, seeker. The minelayer has proton, seismic, seeker (and almost everyone picks seismic). More importantly, who cares if the BOMBER doesn't experience a gain? It's about helping your team. Bombers are support anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom_VI Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 If they are for support then they had better be upgrading their repair drones for ammo ASAP. Otherwise the things are a waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattycutts Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 So my number one pet peeve right now is all these bombers putting out useless garbage repair drones that don't give ammo. Like really, drones that only heal are useless. Why? Because the only time I want heals is if I'm dying and if I'm dying I don't have time to go sit next to a drone, and if I'm not in the process of dying then I'm not going to waste time healing. Repairs shields???? My shields repair themselves thank you. Now ammo is something I'll stop for, because ammo is something I need. But if your not dropping ammo drone then stop wasting my time with these useless drones. Like seriously I get all excited when I see a repair drone, but them I'm like fck you bomber when I realize its not giving ammo. Moar ammo drones plz. I dont fly my bomber much but got it mastered, to be honest not noticed there was a need for ammo option but ill swap mine see how it helps my server out. Glad u did this post identified a need that most didnt know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuciwalker Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Ammo is hard to run out of and easy to get. Meanwhile, shield buff can help a lot under fire. Even without T3 upgrade shield drone is good in TDM because it saves you a death. I'm going too keep running shield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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