is it a "it works as it should" that there is such a huge difference in dps output since patch 4.0 ?

there are classes like vanguard, sniper, maro that hits the big numbers an easily parse ~7500 dps

and then there are classes like sages that parse around 6k. is that intendet ?

More or less ... I fear, yes. Because these are DPS classes, mostly, but right now some of them are simply overpowered, for example Arsenal PT and Sorcs ( plus their mirrors, of course ). Edited November 24, 2015 by AlrikFassbauer

More or less ... I fear, yes. Because these are DPS classes, mostly, but right now some of them are simply overpowered, for example Arsenal PT and Sorcs ( plus their mirrors, of course ).

 

Dude, Arsenal PT? And if u considered sorcs dps overpowered you're beyond saving. Get some info before u answer next thread

Yes, there are differences and probably intended, but pls check the facts before claiming OP sorcs or PT and such:

Ultimate Exarch (224 ilvl), Highlighted Hardmode Gear

Full Stats:

DPS Ranking:

 

 

Ultimate Exarch (224 ilvl) DPS Ranking

Rank - DPS - vs Average (6630) DPS --- Imperial || Republic

01 - 6917 - +4.34% --- Sniper - Engineering || Gunslinger - Saboteur

02 - 6909 - +4.22% --- Marauder - Annihilation || Sentinel - Watchman

03 - 6808 - +2.69% --- Assassin - Deception || Shadow - Infiltration

04 - 6785 - +2.35% --- Powertech - Advanced Prototype || Vanguard - Tactics

05 - 6728 - +1.48% --- Mercenary - Innovative Ordinance || Commando - Assault Specialist

06 - 6705 - +1.15% --- Sniper - Marksman || Gunslinger - Sharpshooter

07 - 6700 - +1.06% --- Marauder - Carnage || Sentinel - Combat

08 - 6619 - -0.16% --- Mercenary - Arsenal || Commando - Gunnery

09 - 6603 - -0.41% --- Sniper - Virulence || Gunslinger - Dirty Fighting

10 - 6597 - -0.49% --- Operative - Lethality || Scoundrel - Ruffian

11 - 6587 - -0.64% --- Assassin - Hatred || Shadow - Serenity

12 - 6581 - -0.73% --- Powertech - Pyrotech || Vanguard - Plasmatech

13 - 6559 - -1.06% --- Sorcerer - Madness || Sage - Balance

14 - 6504 - -1.89% --- Juggernaut - Vengeance || Guardian - Vigilance

15 - 6498 - -1.98% --- Sorcerer - Lightning || Sage - Telekinetics

16 - 6463 - -2.51% --- Operative - Concealment || Scoundrel - Scrapper

17 - 6409 - -3.33% --- Juggernaut - Rage || Guardian - Focus

18 - 6359 - -4.09% --- Marauder - Fury || Sentinel - Concentration

 

Statistics:

Average DPS: 6630

Max - Min DPS: 559

DPS Range: 6638 +- 279

 

Average Critical: 1215

Max - Min Critical: 146

Critical Range: 1236 +- 73

 

Average Alacrity: 868

Max - Min Alacrity: 146

Alacrity Range: 847 +- 73

 

 

 

It would be ok when these theoretical numbers would be achieved in reality but its not!

the difference is much much higher.

 

look at these parses - http://parsely.io/parser/leaderboard

 

snipers, powertechs, maros - all around 7.5k dps

 

rest: all <6.5k dps.

 

Difference: < 1000 dps

 

Especially Sages/Sorcs are screwed up - they dont do good damge and die to soon.

No reason to put them on a raid when you can have a class that does more damage with ease and much higher survivability like a powertech

It would be ok when these theoretical numbers would be achieved in reality but its not!

the difference is much much higher.

 

look at these parses - http://parsely.io/parser/leaderboard

 

snipers, powertechs, maros - all around 7.5k dps

 

rest: all <6.5k dps.

 

Difference: < 1000 dps

 

Especially Sages/Sorcs are screwed up - they dont do good damge and die to soon.

No reason to put them on a raid when you can have a class that does more damage with ease and much higher survivability like a powertech

 

Now how about looking at actual bosses, a dummy parse absolutely nothing if it is not done in a raid. There are quite a few bosses where almost ALL specs and ALL classes perform really well. Not all but most. There are of course a few outliers and i am not saying the class balance is perfect but stop looking at dummy parses, they are stupid and only there to either stroke yourself OR better yet practice your class rotation.

"Try making a raid group with an op DPS, Pyro PT, sorc DPS, and jugg DPS and see how big a difference it is from AP PT, mara, and sniper group. I can almost guarantee it would be extremely hard in proper NiM DPS check fights. "

 

© AndoEyrune @ http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=853206&page=9

It would be ok when these theoretical numbers would be achieved in reality but its not!

the difference is much much higher.

 

look at these parses - http://parsely.io/parser/leaderboard

 

snipers, powertechs, maros - all around 7.5k dps

 

rest: all <6.5k dps.

 

Difference: < 1000 dps

 

Especially Sages/Sorcs are screwed up - they dont do good damge and die to soon.

No reason to put them on a raid when you can have a class that does more damage with ease and much higher survivability like a powertech

 

With the amount of damage we can do.. 2.5m is minimum to use. Anything below that is just caught in the first 40s burst many specs, mainly AP and MM can dish out. 5m would be better and I wouldn't consider anything below 10m to be valid.

Edited November 25, 2015 by Ryuku-sama

That is nonsense. In most of the boss-fights, the amount of damage you do, is about 1 - 2 m. Who cares if the gap gets closer, when there is no practical need for that.

Even with data collected from 4.0 operations, it shows the theorycrafted dps rankings are pretty much accurate. The difference between classes at the top vs the bottom is staggering, and it's often over a 1,000 dps. This makes some classes totally irrelevant for PVE.

Even with data collected from 4.0 operations, it shows the theorycrafted dps rankings are pretty much accurate. The difference between classes at the top vs the bottom is staggering, and it's often over a 1,000 dps. This makes some classes totally irrelevant for PVE.

 

Pretty much especially with how tight some of the NiM checks are now. Only difference between dummy is that PT outshines everything because of insta casts, Reflective Armor, and Engi being unwieldy in a lot of fights.