Nangasaur Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 No it allows you to say what you want, when you want. If people want to complain about stuff, they are allowed too.Ok then, post whatever you want, right now. See exactly what happens. Feel free to use any amount of explicit language, insulting remarks, and heck, throw in a threat or two. I'll be waiting for you right here when you return from your forum suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damolawler Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Free speech protects you against the government, not against private industry. You've obviously never been to England Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodtau Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Ok then, post whatever you want, right now. See exactly what happens. Feel free to use any amount of explicit language, insulting remarks, and heck, throw in a threat or two. I'll be waiting for you right here when you return from your forum suspension. I said nothing about that. Seriously, get off your period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savionen Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) Being Battlemaster doesn't mean that you are a good PVP'er, with great sportsmanship skills and non-disruptive. Matter of fact, I'd wager at this point that most of the people you speak of are habitual quitters that have cherry picked for winning matches since the beginning. Valor rank means nothing. Skill speaks for itself. It goes without saying that one of the fastest ways to BM is to cherry pick for winning warzone matches. So your point is totally moot. I never said that being Battlemaster makes somebody good. Tons of Empire Battlemasters that abused Ilum on the first few days are terrible. The point is they don't get anything from Warzone Commendations. They only get more gear from winning games. If they enjoy PvP, and can get their daily done in 45 minutes, instead of 3 hours, then 45 minutes is the obvious choice. And no, cherry-picking wins is not a good way to get to Battlemaster. So I'm assuming you're nowhere close to Battlemaster. Fast wins don't yield much valor. Getting tons of medals does. Or you know, just doing Ilum instead gives Valor like 10x faster than Warzones. Edited February 17, 2012 by savionen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nangasaur Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 You've obviously never been to EnglandDoesn't matter. This is America we're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodtau Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I never said that being Battlemaster makes somebody good. Tons of Empire Battlemasters that abused Ilum on the first few days are terrible. The point is they don't get anything from Warzone Commendations. They only get more gear from winning games. If they enjoy PvP, and can get their daily done in 45 minutes, instead of 3 hours, then 45 minutes is the obvious choice. And no, cherry-picking wins is not a good way to get to Battlemaster. So I'm assuming you're nowhere close to Battlemaster. Fast wins don't yield much valor. Getting tons of medals does. Or you know, just doing Ilum instead gives Valor like 10x faster than Warzones. Actually yes, it is the fastest way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodtau Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Doesn't matter. This is America we're talking about. last time I looked this is a multi continent forum. Once again, lol.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nangasaur Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I said nothing about that. Originally Posted by Bloodtau No it allows you to say what you want, when you want. Huh? It sure sounded that way to me. Or is there any other way to interpret, "what you want, when you want."? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nangasaur Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) last time I looked this is a multi continent forum. Once again, lol....Oh brother... *sigh* Another person to ignore, you're just trolling dude. Edited February 17, 2012 by Nangasaur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aedilous Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) You didn't need to say all the other derp that I erased. You answered your own question with the sentence after the question. And if you don't understand why that's the case, you're part of the root cause of leavers. Except that I don't leave a warzone just because my team is losing. Whether I win or lose I still get credit for how many medals I earned, not how well the rest of my team did. Yes, winning nets you a larger reward at the end but it isn't the only way to get comms for gear. My team can get completely rolled in a match but if I have tops medals I still get more comms than the rest of my team. Also, how does someone not being geared mean that he isn't trying his hardest? A fresh 50 who hasn't had the chance or the luck on bag drops to get geared yet obviously isn't trying his hardest. You just made a ridiculous and unfounded assumption that I even ever leave warzones. What brought you to that conclusion? Pull your head out of your *** for half a second to see the world around you without your "my **** don't stink" colored glasses and I bet you'd be surprised at what you find. Edited February 17, 2012 by Aedilous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasWsup Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Well actually you did, you just added other crap excuses that had nothing to do with the conversation at hand to make it look like you didn't. Either way, you've stated that you're incapable of having this discussion. I truly pity you. so whoever disagrees with you has no clue.. gotcha! then BW has no clue they didnt agree with you either and guess what next patch has the answer! good luck with your deserter buff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nangasaur Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) Constitution apply to government, not private industry in America too...Uhm, that's what I said. I guess you weren't paying attention somewhere. Go back to page 100. Free speech protects you against the government, not against private industry. It's the folks I was replying to who seem to believe they can come here and post whatever they feel like, because people play from different countries. Edit: removed part of what I quoted from you, because it appears the mods deleted your post for the very thing I had quoted you saying. Edited February 17, 2012 by Nangasaur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiratch Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 i leave every time its a pre made , no way i should have to play pre made when i queue solo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manigma Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) i leave every time its a pre made , no way i should have to play pre made when i queue solo I agree, and I pretty much always play guild premades now - it's just not fun/no challenge when you stomp a group of randoms. Edited February 17, 2012 by Manigma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savionen Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Actually yes, it is the fastest way. I'm curious as to the math on that. On our server you can get 25k valor an hour, or more doing Ilum. That's like 20 wins in an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DasWsup Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Except that I don't leave a warzone just because my team is losing. Whether I win or lose I still get credit for how many medals I earned, not how well the rest of my team did. Yes, winning nets you a larger reward at the end but it isn't the only way to get comms for gear. My team can get completely rolled in a match but if I have tops medals I still get more comms than the rest of my team. Also, how does someone not being geared mean that he isn't trying his hardest? A fresh 50 who hasn't had the chance or the luck on bag drops to get geared yet obviously isn't trying his hardest. You just made a ridiculous and unfounded assumption that I even ever leave warzones. What brought you to that conclusion? Pull your head out of your *** for half a second to see the world around you without your "my **** don't stink" colored glasses and I bet you'd be surprised at what you find. I'm afraid you are asking the impossible here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manigma Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I'm curious as to the math on that. On our server you can get 25k valor an hour, or more doing Ilum. That's like 20 wins in an hour. You think Ilum is equally active on every server, it's pretty dead a lot of time on mine, so yeah WZ is the fastest way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aedilous Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 i leave every time its a pre made , no way i should have to play pre made when i queue solo Wow seriously? That's the type of attitude that players have now? Someone does something legal that you don't want to do so you're going to handicap your team for a while to /ragequit? And you shouldn't be penalized for that? I don't know how you handle things in the real world but if it's anything like you're saying you handle a video game then you're in for a rude awakening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savionen Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 You think Ilum is equally active on every server, it's pretty dead a lot of time on mine, so yeah WZ is the fastest way. No, I don't. But kill-trading is rampant on many servers. I play Republic, and it's still way faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodtau Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I'm curious as to the math on that. On our server you can get 25k valor an hour, or more doing Ilum. That's like 20 wins in an hour. And Illum only lasts for an hour, tops. Once again, Illum isn't the fastest way, unless you exploit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vydor_HC Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I agree, and I pretty much always play guild premades now - it's just not fun/no challenge when you stomp a group of randoms. It might not be fun, but it's lucrative. And right now Warzones are a means to an end for a lot of people. The game design is causing more people to leave warzones than anything else, and hopefully the will address those flaws as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiratch Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Wow seriously? That's the type of attitude that players have now? Someone does something legal that you don't want to do so you're going to handicap your team for a while to /ragequit? And you shouldn't be penalized for that? I don't know how you handle things in the real world but if it's anything like you're saying you handle a video game then you're in for a rude awakening. what the hell does the real world have to do with a game ? grow up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manigma Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 It might not be fun, but it's lucrative. And right now Warzones are a means to an end for a lot of people. The game design is causing more people to leave warzones than anything else, and hopefully the will address those flaws as well. Lucrative maybe, but I play this game for competition, can't wait for rated WZ tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodtau Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 you are a quitter when people dont play to your standards You are the problem! No he's smart enough to leave when the rest of the team are 'tards. You are stupid enough to stay in a losing battle then blaming your bad playing on "leavers" I'd say YOU are the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savionen Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 And Illum only lasts for an hour, tops. Once again, Illum isn't the fastest way, unless you exploit. Ilum kill-trading lasts a good 4-6 hours every night on our server. Different from server to server I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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