Reno_Tarshil Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Cash don't argue with the apologist, they can't be convinced in any way... Nice label there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cycao Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Wow, have I been in your signature this entire time? I'm flattered you thought of me so fondly and lovingly. Well never have I heard a more moronic statement so take that as you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamesux Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Nice label there. Nice trolling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morthwyll Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I'm playing both Sent/Mara and Guardian/Jug and I'm happy to see Smash nerf, it's perfect What's worrying me more is the Smuggler/Agent buff: "Defense Screen has had its cooldown reduced to 20 seconds, its maximum duration reduced to 10 seconds, and now absorbs slightly more damage per cast." It's ok, that it'll have shorter cd for shorter duration, but why give it more damage absorb? It's already high enough, and imho with shorter cd it'll be to much, hope its a typo and should be "slightly less damage" I'm just afraid that DPS Smug/Agent will be almost (or probably) unkillable, especially 1v1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamesux Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Well never have I heard a more moronic statement so take that as you want. he's not a PvP'er so i wouldn't expect anything less from that type of player... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernixx Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I'm playing both Sent/Mara and Guardian/Jug and I'm happy to see Smash nerf, it's perfect What's worrying me more is the Smuggler/Agent buff: "Defense Screen has had its cooldown reduced to 20 seconds, its maximum duration reduced to 10 seconds, and now absorbs slightly more damage per cast." It's ok, that it'll have shorter cd for shorter duration, but why give it more damage absorb? It's already high enough, and imho with shorter cd it'll be to much, hope its a typo and should be "slightly less damage" I'm just afraid that DPS Smug/Agent will be almost (or probably) unkillable, especially 1v1. Thankfully, they've shown that they're not all that interested in letting PVP concerns influence the balance of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno_Tarshil Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Nice trolling How was what I said trolling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno_Tarshil Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) Well never have I heard a more moronic statement so take that as you want. In your opinion of course. Which I respect. Edited February 13, 2014 by Reno_Tarshil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guntterr Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Nice to know smash is getting nerf. But what about the class the need some love the most? Shadows/Assassins? Don't forget us! And NO, buffing a filler skills does not count.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamesux Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 How was what I said trolling? Basically everything, just as the apologists say the same to me. Guess it doesn't feel good, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno_Tarshil Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Basically everything, just as the apologists say the same to me. Guess it doesn't feel good, huh? You're silly. I'm going to buy you a rooster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlrikFassbauer Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I'm very surprised - and quite concerned asw well - that [io]almost everyone[/i] in this discussion here writes about Knights / Warriors and Agents / Scoundrels ... But almost no-one writes about Sorcs / Sages ! Are those really THAT unpopular by now ? Why don't people comment in their changes ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamesux Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I'm very surprised - and quite concerned asw well - that [io]almost everyone[/i] in this discussion here writes about Knights / Warriors and Agents / Scoundrels ... But almost no-one writes about Sorcs / Sages ! Are those really THAT unpopular by now ? Why don't people comment in their changes ??? They'll still be squishy as f*** as Carnage/Combat Maras will root them to death and finish them off with a Blade Storm auto-crit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernixx Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 They'll still be squishy as f*** as Carnage/Combat Maras will root them to death and finish them off with a Blade Storm auto-crit psst: no one cares about pvp concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glower Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Nerf little buff nerf nerf nerf little buff nerf nerf. I am totally disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoFishing Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I'm very surprised - and quite concerned asw well - that [io]almost everyone[/i] in this discussion here writes about Knights / Warriors and Agents / Scoundrels ... But almost no-one writes about Sorcs / Sages ! Are those really THAT unpopular by now ? Why don't people comment in their changes ??? The changes (outside of the seer tree) are mostly about removing their RNG, which is always welcome. I'd expect most of the discussion to happen once the PTS opens up and sages get a chance to see how the specs play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oginator Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 (edited) Judging from the nerf thats coming to smash and considering about 95% of the PvP population has an alt for smashing, It's safe to say dev's are trying to get the PvP community to unsub so they can focus only on PvE like they've been doing all this time. PvP population is near extinction as it is, nerfing smash wont make anyone resub, or make someone that has never played the game before sub to the game, at least nowhere near as the count of subs you'll lose. Nerf smash if you must, but something of this magnitude will simply make the pvp population worse. Edited February 13, 2014 by Oginator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jherad Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 (edited) These look like some nice changes for the most part, but I'll add to the 'what about Mercs' pile... We've been asking for interrupt protection for over a year now, and while it's nice that you've gone and given it to sorcs (they needed it), I can't help but feel that combined with the defensive buff to snipers (why?) Arsenal mercs will be well on their way back to their place as the redheaded stepchild of pvp RDPS. Again. I'm not surprised, but come on. Something for 2.7 please. Edited February 14, 2014 by Jherad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sangrar Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 (edited) Basically everything, just as the apologists say the same to me. Guess it doesn't feel good, huh? apologists? that sounds familiar... Anyway, any word at all about madness assassins? Last I checked they were considered the worst spec for assassin for pvp, is there any change on that? Edited February 14, 2014 by Sangrar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlanis Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 So dies the Sentinel in PvP, last viable Spec is gone. Thx for hating Sents Bioware, may we have a free respec to Guardian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essence_of_Light Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 (edited) So dies the Sentinel in PvP, last viable Spec is gone. Thx for hating Sents Bioware, may we have a free respec to Guardian? 1 or 2 nerfs to sentinels/Maras and they're already complaining. Why don't you trying playing a Commando/Merc in PvP? While I agree the nerf might've been a little bit overdone, its nothing to whine and cry about. Edited February 14, 2014 by Essence_of_Light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decrisit Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 I'm playing both Sent/Mara and Guardian/Jug and I'm happy to see Smash nerf, it's perfect What's worrying me more is the Smuggler/Agent buff: "Defense Screen has had its cooldown reduced to 20 seconds, its maximum duration reduced to 10 seconds, and now absorbs slightly more damage per cast." It's ok, that it'll have shorter cd for shorter duration, but why give it more damage absorb? It's already high enough, and imho with shorter cd it'll be to much, hope its a typo and should be "slightly less damage" I'm just afraid that DPS Smug/Agent will be almost (or probably) unkillable, especially 1v1. You don't understand it because you did not notice the change to K.O. It's gone from a STUN to a ROOT. In other words, you've just killed the Scoundrel class as a viable PvP DPS. I really do not understand people that complain about Scoundrels/Ops. WE ARE BUILT TO KILL ONE PERSON ONLY. What do you people not understand!? Stop going all Solo in PvP! All you need to do it root or knockback and we're FREE KILLS. The change to screen with do nothing to help with our already lacking defenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernixx Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 So many angry PVPers. Thank god BW knows to put its focus on PVE when it comes to balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderKeeva Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Loving the Commando changes.....NOT! Do you ever intended to fix Mercs/Commandos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediMasterSLC Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 psst: no one cares about pvp concerns. psst: no one cares about carebear pve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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