ubermouth Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) Would love a pvp wz where gear stats are null. Winning would be more dependent on skill, tactics etc. Also an objective based pug wz with none of the boring stats. Just a winner and a loser. People interested in farming numbers can queue for the other wz. I know intelligent getting can be fun, and min/maxing allows for variation in build viability for certain tactical goals/play-styles, but it also just seems sort of like people hate rated because of the vast differences in gear. Grind it like the rest of us, I guess is what you'll all say. Edited March 22, 2013 by ubermouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biowareftw Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) Would love a pvp wz where gear stats are null. Winning would be more dependent on skill, tactics etc. Also an objective based pug wz with none of the boring stats. Just a winner and a loser. People interested in farming numbers can queue for the other wz. I know intelligent getting can be fun, and min/maxing allows for variation in build viability for certain tactical goals/play-styles, but it also just seems sort of like people hate rated because of the vast differences in gear. Grind it like the rest of us, I guess is what you'll all say. The gear grind is all downhill after your first char. Hint: get legacy gree gear and get 5 pcs from doing pvp dailies on your "main/mains". On the alt get 2750 coms before rank 40/level 40 on alt. Turn those all into ranked coms at 40. Pvp from 40-45. Be completely geared at 50 or so close to it, that it doesn't matter. Repeat. Grats you can now play multiple characters. This is the most alt friendly game I have played. I can play my shadow, sniper, marauder, scoundrel all min maxed. Another Hint. The scoundre/op pvp bonus blows (dps set). So use the sniper/slingers gear. Grats. 2 for 1 gear set with gree daily gear. First character might be rough. After that it is smooth sailing. Edited March 22, 2013 by biowareftw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubermouth Posted March 22, 2013 Author Share Posted March 22, 2013 Thank you for the tips. I will use them int the interim till they give some of us the option of gear-null wz. I just care about playing well. I hate gear atm, so tedious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polymerize Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Once again, I hold a similar mindset. Lulz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BambulaGTS Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) But then u need everyone has same abilities, same talents, or just have none, cause different specs require different approaches to stats. And how will you play in different abilities and talent trees environment without gear or with default stats/normalized stats? Edited March 22, 2013 by BambulaGTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlanon Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) this thread is for wussies how about we add a pve bolster so i can run hm ops in my battlemaster gear Edited March 22, 2013 by Arlanon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cub-lover Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 i agree with the OP, pvp shouldnt be gear dependant and mroe skill dependant, ive been against PVP gear sicne day one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt_Beers Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Smashers will dominate as they are the only class that has an auto crit and damage increase in the magnitude they do 100% tied to abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubermouth Posted March 22, 2013 Author Share Posted March 22, 2013 this thread is for wussies how about we add a pve bolster so i can run hm ops in my battlemaster gear that would be nice. up the skill req. welcomed opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubermouth Posted March 22, 2013 Author Share Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) i'd still welcome the opportunity. no class is unbeatable you dont need smashers to beat smashers Smashers will dominate as they are the only class that has an auto crit and damage increase in the magnitude they do 100% tied to abilities. Edited March 22, 2013 by ubermouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordkhouri Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 It takes a bit over a week to get a set of gear viable for rated warzones. At the higher level of rated play, everyone is equally geared with a few exceptions due to personal preferrence, and skill differences become very apperant. Basically what i'm getting at is this: If you take away the gear, the baddies will still get stomped and the majority of players will feel as if there is not enough incentive to win in PvP, or even compete! (Trust me, I saw it happen in GW2) Another main issue is this: Without some sort of gear grind, everyone would simply reroll whatever they feel is OP. It promotes FOTM rerollers waaay to much. (Trust me, I saw it happen in GW2) The best thing is to concentrate on one character > get good (or get help getting good)> get gear > learn other class abilities > perfect your gameplay > be a good and not a bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumbidy Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 It's okay guys. I figured out the OP is a troll. Everything is under control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidichIorian Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 But....but...how would the smashers be able to stack power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorldSecurities Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Would love a pvp wz where gear stats are null. Winning would be more dependent on skill, tactics etc. Red Sonja/Conan style; love it! Well, except the weapon(s) and secondary would need standard stats. No weapon stats is pure melee. Otherwise the carnage would be good bloody fun* and glorious. * let's have additional ... /* " " Vash the Stampede Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theUndead Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 this thread is for wussies how about we add a pve bolster so i can run hm ops in my battlemaster gear How about you learn how end game works first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubermouth Posted March 22, 2013 Author Share Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) How about you learn how end game works first. He appears to have a deeper understanding as to how marketers have you chasing two carrots than you do. Grind for two kinds of gear with everry new toon ad naseum. No thanks I'd rather spend my time pvping where gear doesn't matter.I'd rather pve in gear-null instances that require skill and not gear values and repair cost. But if it only takes a short while and no money to get BiS, then that's great. Feels like it takes some time just to level the same old **** to get the same old ****. I am entitled to no lore, no convos, idependence from guild, a smart group finder that groups me by preference doesnt require me to have affiliations with people other than in runs or pvp, and i dont want to smoke their cartel opium. Shocking! I don't care about traditional mmo social norms. I'm here to get my skills razor sharp. I just want the option for this. I dont want to take anything from anyone. I bet a a lot of folks would like that. Edited March 22, 2013 by ubermouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mookind Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Would love a pvp wz where gear stats are null. Winning would be more dependent on skill, tactics etc. Also an objective based pug wz with none of the boring stats. Just a winner and a loser. People interested in farming numbers can queue for the other wz. I know intelligent getting can be fun, and min/maxing allows for variation in build viability for certain tactical goals/play-styles, but it also just seems sort of like people hate rated because of the vast differences in gear. Grind it like the rest of us, I guess is what you'll all say. There should be almost no gear gap, granted recruit sucks but it doesn't take many matches to get into WH and itemize Free to players leveling up fresh 50's exacerbate this problem, the expansion should improve your experience dramatically. And mine lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubermouth Posted March 22, 2013 Author Share Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) Wait, why do so many people ***** about premades and gear in rated if gear isnt an unnecessarily confounding variable in match outcomes? It seems like this game controls for skill with by using gear. Edited March 22, 2013 by ubermouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mookind Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Who *****es about gear for rated? I p leveled my scoundrel ahead of schedule and having been ******** on PUGs all day on teh leader boards with some terrible gear. If you put the players who whoop your *** in recruit they are still going to whoop your ***. Just not as swiftly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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