DefiantFall Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 It really does show how they have lost interested in loyal Asia-Pacific subbers. Can't even tell us what time the server has to shut down now we have to check up on it, thanks for the support EA can you pay me back for all the cartel coins I have bought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkheyr Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 We feel that most players should be fairly quickly able to convert the time out of PDT and GMT to discern maintenance times. Considering your own lack of success at correctly converting timezones I find that statement unbelievably hilarious. I'm not bothering to trust the times on the german forum anymore anyway, but that statement here is more than just a little cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glzmo Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 This is a great question! We looked at how we were handling our maintenance messaging and decided a couple of things. The number one goal of the messaging was to have someone be able to look at it and quickly discern what was happening and when. The problem with our old maintenance messaging is that it was very convoluted, just a bunch of information overload. Although I can appreciate how nice it is to have a lot of timezones listed, it creates more opportunities for us to mess up or for someone to read it incorrectly. We feel that most players should be fairly quickly able to convert the time out of PDT and GMT to discern maintenance times. I hope that answers your question on why we made the change. Couldn't you change it to only display the timezone set in the account's settings when logged in (at least on the launcher), and if not logged in it would display the GMT/PDT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckimusPrime Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Considering your own lack of success at correctly converting timezones I find that statement unbelievably hilarious. I'm not bothering to trust the times on the german forum anymore anyway, but that statement here is more than just a little cheap. This. Bioware themselves were constantly failing at converting the timezones. And having the maintenance occuring at times that didn't align with what they had informed everyone of. Now they can just claim that the customers have stuffed up their conversions around day saving times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachenko_Yuri Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 If I log in and find maintenance in progress, oh well, I come back later. If it's still downtime I'll come back in later again. Rinse and repeat till servers are back on. It's not like if people can addicted to this sort of games. Oh,wait.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthZak Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 For those saying "Just math it yourself!" I already have to keep track of 5 different time zones, it gets kinda rough with the abbreviations. To be honest if theyre not bothered with putting timezones in there any more then just put UTC in there and be done with it >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaynaTan Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) The problem with our old maintenance messaging is that it was very convoluted, just a bunch of information overload. Although I can appreciate how nice it is to have a lot of timezones listed, it creates more opportunities for us to mess up or for someone to read it incorrectly. We feel that most players should be fairly quickly able to convert the time out of PDT and GMT to discern maintenance times. Honestly, if it is so very simple, why are you worried about messing up on your end? Can't have it both way, Eric ^^. I, too, think it a lot easier to just check the CET-time instead of now having to do the conversion, especially with the mentioned Daylight Saving mess coming up. Anyway, no use ranting about my wish to give up dayligth saving time, but I DO wish to have my timezone-info back ^^. PS: By the way, thanks for at least keeping GMT in the list, I usually remember my GMT-difference... Edited March 26, 2013 by LaynaTan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoleMac Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Why dont you use CET (Central European Time) instead of GMT which is used by only one country ? CET countries: Albania, Andorra, Austria, Belgium, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Croatia, Czech, Denmark, France, Germany, Gibraltar, Vatican City, Hungary, Italy, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Macedonia, Malta, Monaco, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, San Marino, Serbia-Montenegro, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland GMT: UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxeGaijin Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Everyone just learn Zulu time, problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Przemo_No Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 because it is easy for all of Europe to add this 1 hour, so British people can still feel very important cos their own time is considered "the primary " : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaynaTan Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) Why dont you use CET (Central European Time) instead of GMT which is used by only one country ? CET countries: Albania, Andorra, Austria, Belgium, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Croatia, Czech, Denmark, France, Germany, Gibraltar, Vatican City, Hungary, Italy, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Macedonia, Malta, Monaco, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, San Marino, Serbia-Montenegro, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland GMT: UK I would say that's less EA/BW being silly than historical... Times are historically just calculated GMT +/- whatever the difference is, hence Greenwich MEAN time . Blame the British here for trying to colonize the world . Just the reason I tend to keep track of GMT: People I met intermnationally usually knew their GMT-difference, too, so we each know "when" the other is. Edited March 26, 2013 by LaynaTan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoleMac Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 GMT is outdated and inaccurate, sorry - blame Einstein & Atomic Clocks. But I do understand it may be too difficult for an insular state to do the math for CET. Time: From Earth Rotation to Atomic Physics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turshek Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Why dont you use CET (Central European Time) instead of GMT which is used by only one country ? CET countries: Albania, Andorra, Austria, Belgium, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Croatia, Czech, Denmark, France, Germany, Gibraltar, Vatican City, Hungary, Italy, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Macedonia, Malta, Monaco, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, San Marino, Serbia-Montenegro, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland GMT: UK except they use BST in the summer, which is not GMT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoleMac Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) Yeh right, they dont even use it ~50% of the year. Edited March 26, 2013 by SoleMac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atramar Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Do they even teach Geography in US schools? Or do they make you learn the names and capitals of your states and call it done? Think just capitals and states... they even do show when kid who can tell all of them, plus spell a 8 letter word is called a genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatile Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 except they use BST in the summer, which is not GMT. Curiously I found that CEST is CET and the two terms can be interchangeable during the summer, so BST is still then +1 on Europe. Leading raids with continental members did a bit confusing when the times changed, but we got the timezones sort-of sorted. GMT is the zero by which all other clocks are measured, but CET or UTC would make more sense if Bioware is doing away with time zones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexDougherty Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Why dont you use CET (Central European Time) instead of GMT which is used by only one country ? CET countries: Albania, Andorra, Austria, Belgium, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Croatia, Czech, Denmark, France, Germany, Gibraltar, Vatican City, Hungary, Italy, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Macedonia, Malta, Monaco, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, San Marino, Serbia-Montenegro, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland GMT: UK Actually that's incorrect, we British only use GMT in the Autumn and Winter, During Spring and Summer we use BST British Summer Time. Also a number of countries use GMT, mainly in Africa but they are countries. Also my condolences for anyone who finds converting from GMT hard, it's made more confusing by the fact that Britian only uses it for six months and if you happen to know the time in Britian then your probably using the wrong time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longarms-IV Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 How BW can give the answer they did is beyond me. If they think they might mess up the conversions, though they can script them, how they think actual people will fair consistently better is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisLegShaker Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 This reminds me of something else ... "Inc East! no wait.. snow.. it can't be grass! Er... get to the crash site!! Aw the heck with it, look for my toon icon on the mini map!!" =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatile Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 This reminds me of something else ... "Inc East! no wait.. snow.. it can't be grass! Er... get to the crash site!! Aw the heck with it, look for my toon icon on the mini map!!" =) I tried to use the clock positions when cardinal directions didn't work out. Now I just say "over here", which, for some reason, actually works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedShirtRob Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) Couldn't you change it to only display the timezone set in the account's settings when logged in (at least on the launcher), and if not logged in it would display the GMT/PDT? ^^^ This! SWTOR's database doesn't support Timestamps with Local Timezones? Edited March 26, 2013 by RedShirtRob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoleMac Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) I think they should introduce SHT = Standard Hutt Time Edited March 26, 2013 by SoleMac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamar_Goiim Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I like the new and simpler format for the maintenance information. But why switch from Central to Pacific for the US times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuhu Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 For players in Europe: http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/to/cet/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinsali Posted April 16, 2013 Author Share Posted April 16, 2013 Sooo posting GMT and doing conversions really work. Like today/ Logged on after getting home from work (4PM AEST) and notice the maintenance time showing it's due at 12PM GMT. This equates to 22:00 AEST. Well, servers go down 2 hours early. I mean really, they expect us to get outage times correct when they can't even do it themselves. And yes it,s annoying cause my wife and I were trying to get our dailies done, and we had it worked we could get them done on most of our 50;s/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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