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As one other person said, look real close and there is zero doubt who they are. This is a 100% confirmation from the devs, they just aren't saying it in type, rather leaving it to those that know the characters intimately to spot it.

It certainly *could* be them.(1) "Zero doubt"??? Hard to say. The Aurebesh that pops up in the binocs is "STATUS" all over.

 

(1) Spoilers

One big and broad-shouldered, one smaller and much more lightly built, but I'm looking at a 4K screenie, and that's all that can be seen.

They've put some effort into concealing their identities.

 

More spoilers: Screenie.

 

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yip ! Nice way to start things moving ..

 

Just one question though : (possible spoiler ... just in case)

 

 

Ummm ...

Remember hearts and minds... Dr. Oggurobb telling everyone that the planetary security had just been updated ??

Sorry ! I just had to ask. No bad feeling intended. Just one of those details I happened to remember (for a change) .

Sooo just exactly how did these two get in ??

 

Dunno how they got in in the first place, but how did they disapear so fast with all the things they had with them, without leaving anything behind ? :o

 

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Dunno how they got in in the first place, but how did they disapear so fast with all the things they had with them, without leaving anything behind ? :o

I gotta admit that I wondered about that. No trace *at*all*, and no hint of the stuff when you looked without the binocs either.

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It certainly *could* be them.(1) "Zero doubt"??? Hard to say. The Aurebesh that pops up in the binocs is "STATUS" all over.

 

(1) Spoilers

One big and broad-shouldered, one smaller and much more lightly built, but I'm looking at a 4K screenie, and that's all that can be seen.

They've put some effort into concealing their identities.

 

More spoilers: Screenie.

 

I have a far better screen shot than that. You need one with the girl facing toward the right, not left, so you can see her saber. Steve, the clue to your cynicism is in your name here. I get it, you are cynical. I am willing to place a bet of any value of real money that it is who I say it is. I am 100% certain. Its like people that believe flat earthers have a point, then go and watch Steven Hawkins video proving with simple science that a lake is in fact not flat, and then still deny it. Comes a point when you have to accept the evidence, I am THAT sure of this. Maybe I know it because I am a lightsaber collector, not just a star wars fan; and hence I have a keen eye for lightsabers. And these two had VERY unique sabers.

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Dunno how they got in in the first place, but how did they disapear so fast with all the things they had with them, without leaving anything behind ? :o

 

Ummm...

 

Now don't start getting all technical on the old man ! Make me have to stop and think that through !

 

REALLY ???

 

I have a hard enough time keeping up with you younger folks !!

 

:D:D:D

 

 

(and yes ... I'm just messin' with ya !)

 

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A bit Unsettling that two unknown figures were able to get so close to the Alliance Base unannounced, The Alliance soldiers stopped doing patrols? who's on Guard duty? and more Important, who's supposed to be in charge of the soldiers that were supposed to be "On guard Duty"?? :) I thought those *Dancers were a bit "Too Much" now unknown people are getting so close. Kudos though to those two on sterilizing their camp so fast on their way out.
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As for "rage and salt" when 6.0 drops, I'm going to drag this post up on the day I am proven right until you admit defeat and that you were being unreasonable.

 

I don't have a dog in this fight but ... seriously?! You're going to bring this post back up and go, "Hah! I was right! I was right! Look, I was right!" ... like a child? So what if people are skeptical? So what if they prefer more proof? It's not worth arguing over and it's certainly not worth acting that immature.

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I don't have a dog in this fight but ... seriously?! You're going to bring this post back up and go, "Hah! I was right! I was right! Look, I was right!" ... like a child? So what if people are skeptical? So what if they prefer more proof? It's not worth arguing over and it's certainly not worth acting that immature.

 

So he can say stuff like "freaking stupid" and infer that he will laugh at the "salt and rage" when he is proven right, and you tell me that I'm the one who can't drag this post up when 6.0 finally drops? Why are you not telling him its not worth arguing over?

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So he can say stuff like "freaking stupid" and infer that he will laugh at the "salt and rage" when he is proven right, and you tell me that I'm the one who can't drag this post up when 6.0 finally drops? Why are you not telling him its not worth arguing over?

 

Except you are reading things into his comments. I read his comments and no where in his comments does he say "freaking stupid" and he has been around the forums enough to have a better reputation than what you are trying to say he will do. While I don't always agree with his comments I have never known him to do what you are saying he will do. You on the other hand actually said you would do that. You are the one that keeps arguing over the fact it is who you think it is and like Elessara said I don't care either way.

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I have a far better screen shot than that.

It's easy to *say* that you have a better screen shot. If you want such a claim to be taken seriously, you have to *show* it.

You need one with the girl facing toward the right, not left, so you can see her saber. Steve, the clue to your cynicism is in your name here. I get it, you are cynical. I am willing to place a bet of any value of real money that it is who I say it is. I am 100% certain. Its like people that believe flat earthers have a point, then go and watch Steven Hawkins video proving with simple science that a lake is in fact not flat, and then still deny it. Comes a point when you have to accept the evidence, I am THAT sure of this. Maybe I know it because I am a lightsaber collector, not just a star wars fan; and hence I have a keen eye for lightsabers. And these two had VERY unique sabers.

I like the way you manage to out-cynic me by equating my statements to the blitherings of flat-earthers.

 

I certainly wouldn't bet *against* it being them, but when I watch the statements here, what I *see* (more generally than just you) is a bunch of people who *want* to believe that it *is*and*must*be* them, and so they convince themselves that it is.

 

For the record, as I've noted on another one of these threads: I think it probably is them.

 

I'm just not willing to go beyond "probably".

 

EDIT: and the scientist is (was) Stephen Hawking. Steven Hawkins is someone else entirely.

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I think that it's certainly possible that it could be Kira and Scourge, however, I wouldn't go into rage mode if they aren't. I have my Kira set to customization 9 and the woman I saw didn't have it, but that means nothing. Lokin doesn't have his customization in his recruitment cutscenes either. Whoever they are I'm a little scared that they got in unnoticed.
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It's easy to *say* that you have a better screen shot. If you want such a claim to be taken seriously, you have to *show* it.

 

I like the way you manage to out-cynic me by equating my statements to the blitherings of flat-earthers.

 

I certainly wouldn't bet *against* it being them, but when I watch the statements here, what I *see* (more generally than just you) is a bunch of people who *want* to believe that it *is*and*must*be* them, and so they convince themselves that it is.

 

For the record, as I've noted on another one of these threads: I think it probably is them.

 

I'm just not willing to go beyond "probably".

 

EDIT: and the scientist is (was) Stephen Hawking. Steven Hawkins is someone else entirely.

 

hey... got a quick question here .. and maybe just another thought to go with this.

 

1. What if they were not physically there at all ?

2. Wasn't part 2 of the observers on Odessen to go to a higher observation point... then POOF ! they seemed to be gone ?

 

What if there was something else behind the sighting ? Just asking ? That might explain why none of the planetary security alarms were set off ?

 

Yeah .. I know .. it's a stretch !

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hey... got a quick question here .. and maybe just another thought to go with this.

 

1. What if they were not physically there at all ?

2. Wasn't part 2 of the observers on Odessen to go to a higher observation point... then POOF ! they seemed to be gone ?

 

What if there was something else behind the sighting ? Just asking ? That might explain why none of the planetary security alarms were set off ?

 

Yeah .. I know .. it's a stretch !

I like the way you think here. Time will tell, I guess.

 

One of the things that bothers me about it being the K&S show is that they will be unlike the more recent companion returns, perhaps. Why have the BioWare crew shown these ohservers to *everyone*? Why not follow the trend and show them only to Jedi Knights and Jedi Knights? (For reference: my screenie was captured as I ran through this for a second time, and this time on a character that was not a JK.)

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hey... got a quick question here .. and maybe just another thought to go with this.

 

1. What if they were not physically there at all ?

2. Wasn't part 2 of the observers on Odessen to go to a higher observation point... then POOF ! they seemed to be gone ?

 

What if there was something else behind the sighting ? Just asking ? That might explain why none of the planetary security alarms were set off ?

 

Yeah .. I know .. it's a stretch !

 

Yeah my thought process was that either they weren't physically there (or at least not physically in that spot), or one of them used the Force to hide their presence.

 

It seems possible that someone observing you might create a false or projected image to test your reaction.

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Yeah my thought process was that either they weren't physically there (or at least not physically in that spot), or one of them used the Force to hide their presence.

 

It seems possible that someone observing you might create a false or projected image to test your reaction.

 

Agreed...

 

I must admit... well played by BW... and they have the rest of us guessing as to what actually happened..

 

Nicely done BW team !

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Yeah my thought process was that either they weren't physically there (or at least not physically in that spot), or one of them used the Force to hide their presence.

 

It seems possible that someone observing you might create a false or projected image to test your reaction.

That was what I thought after running through this little Easter egg.

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That was what I thought after running through this little Easter egg.

 

Speaking of Easter Eggs... Please review the following (spoiler)

 

Disclaimer: I'm not sure it's an Easter egg .. Bad omen .. "glitch" .. or with all of problems we've been having with S/H lately what to think. But ... please note the following:

 

(note: edit done )

 

 

While working on Manaan SH... I placed "Kira" in a new spot. The image (only a hollo for obvious reasons) looked different. The lower half was still dressed in the same outfit as the last time I saw her AND using the correct companion customization that I use.

 

However: The top half: she is wearing a different top: one that I did not recognize. Her neck, jaw and head has something added. There is what appears to be a neck brace or perhaps bionic implants on the front side of the neck. The lower part of her face is a bionic component form ear to ear essentially acting a support or replacement of her jaw. There are additional cyborg implants on the temple and ear areas almost exactly to that of Lobot (of Bespin) ...

 

Once again I must hasten to say I'm not sure what this is there. It is only visible when I'm using A JK Sentenial. When I'm using any of my other characters .. her appearance is the DEFAULT character ... not the one I use.

 

Update: I checked again .. and the holo image is different... this time the character of Kira is wearing a hooded top that strongly resembles the screen shot provided by SteveTheCynic. It should also be noted that Kira definitely has some other issues.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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yip ! Nice way to start things moving ..

 

Just one question though : (possible spoiler ... just in case)

 

 

Ummm ...

Remember hearts and minds... Dr. Oggurobb telling everyone that the planetary security had just been updated ??

Sorry ! I just had to ask. No bad feeling intended. Just one of those details I happened to remember (for a change) .

Sooo just exactly how did these two get in ??

I think my character's security is very lazy and/or very drunk in the cantina OR overly reliant on my character being a superb killer. For example, in Iokath:

 

Malavai Quinn was able to just waltz into the alliance base to see the Warrior even though he was supposed to be under arrest :D Romanced or not, he should have at least had a security escort

My Sith Inq main, for whom Koth is exiled, still has him stood right in her Odessen War Room like nothing happened - how'd he get back in? I need to have a word with my security :D (by word I mean force-choking-lightning-shock-shooty-stabby threats).

 

I agree with the viewpoint that the pair do indeed look like Scourge and Kira. And I've said before, their return story (stories) better be awesome and plausible.

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Speaking of Easter Eggs... Please review the following (spoiler)

 

Disclaimer: I'm not sure it's an Easter egg .. Bad omen .. "glitch" .. or with all of problems we've been having with S/H lately what to think. But ... please note the following:

 

(note: edit done )

 

 

While working on Manaan SH... I placed "Kira" in a new spot. The image (only a hollo for obvious reasons) looked different. The lower half was still dressed in the same outfit as the last time I saw her AND using the correct companion customization that I use.

 

However: The top half: she is wearing a different top: one that I did not recognize. Her neck, jaw and head has something added. There is what appears to be a neck brace or perhaps bionic implants on the front side of the neck. The lower part of her face is a bionic component form ear to ear essentially acting a support or replacement of her jaw. There are additional cyborg implants on the temple and ear areas almost exactly to that of Lobot (of Bespin) ...

 

Once again I must hasten to say I'm not sure what this is there. It is only visible when I'm using A JK Sentenial. When I'm using any of my other characters .. her appearance is the DEFAULT character ... not the one I use.

 

Update: I checked again .. and the holo image is different... this time the character of Kira is wearing a hooded top that strongly resembles the screen shot provided by SteveTheCynic. It should also be noted that Kira definitely has some other issues.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I couldn't replicate this on my Sentinel

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Yeah my thought process was that either they weren't physically there (or at least not physically in that spot), or one of them used the Force to hide their presence.

 

It seems possible that someone observing you might create a false or projected image to test your reaction.

 

But why?

 

According to the cutscene (the second one inside the room), my character had absolutely no reaction whatsoever. Judging by her facial expression, at least.

 

Also, I find it very hard to believe that someone would project a full camp outside of a base like that. At least to me, this possible explanation makes no sense. But neither does the explanation that they actually camped there and after discovery used force cloak or something like that.

 

This whole thing is... mysterious. :p

 

(And just for the record, I didn't even think for a millisecond about Kira/Scourge when playing this mission.)

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Speaking of Easter Eggs... Please review the following (spoiler)

 

Disclaimer: I'm not sure it's an Easter egg .. Bad omen .. "glitch" .. or with all of problems we've been having with S/H lately what to think. But ... please note the following:

 

(note: edit done )

 

 

While working on Manaan SH... I placed "Kira" in a new spot. The image (only a hollo for obvious reasons) looked different. The lower half was still dressed in the same outfit as the last time I saw her AND using the correct companion customization that I use.

 

However: The top half: she is wearing a different top: one that I did not recognize. Her neck, jaw and head has something added. There is what appears to be a neck brace or perhaps bionic implants on the front side of the neck. The lower part of her face is a bionic component form ear to ear essentially acting a support or replacement of her jaw. There are additional cyborg implants on the temple and ear areas almost exactly to that of Lobot (of Bespin) ...

 

Once again I must hasten to say I'm not sure what this is there. It is only visible when I'm using A JK Sentenial. When I'm using any of my other characters .. her appearance is the DEFAULT character ... not the one I use.

 

Update: I checked again .. and the holo image is different... this time the character of Kira is wearing a hooded top that strongly resembles the screen shot provided by SteveTheCynic. It should also be noted that Kira definitely has some other issues.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hmm.. I might have to try this, although my S/H is on DK, so I don't know if that will make a difference. Worth a try though.

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Hmm.. I might have to try this, although my S/H is on DK, so I don't know if that will make a difference. Worth a try though.

 

OOPS ... ssory my bad..

 

Yes I tried on of my other SH locations .. works there too !

 

Sorry about that chief !

 

:D

 

EDIT: I'll drop by those locations again this AM... I have several RL things to attend to this AM... but I will pop in and see if

 

 

Kira is still dressed in that hoodie. That was something else that seemed to be odd... She still had the same "leg" outfit she was wearing when she was last seen by me in game. Really odd stuff !

 

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If the plan with these "observers" is a lead-in to a complete destruction of the Odessen alliance base as part of the push to return the game to imp versus pub, I will not be advancing my character story on very many toons, and I have very many toons.
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