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Yes but they don't write it down word for word, and they do make mistakes, they make lots of them, I'd know, I'm one of the main members, have been since 2009.

 

Everyone makes mistakes, but that doesn't mean everything on the site is wrong. It's still canon that it was Revan's plan.

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He can't fight a war as it's against the jedi "code". Qui gon was differant because he didn't follow a single jedi teaching. He was a rogue basically and used his own teachings. It's why obi wan said if he used the code he would be on the council.

 

They didn't think they needed a clone army. They didn't order the clone army and padme and the jedi at the beginning of the movie were going to vote that NO army should be made. They only decided to use an army when they finnaly realized the "oh **** we actually might be able 2 be challenged and now because of how amazing we thought we were we are kinda screwed its lucky this army was already here" moment. The army was made by dooku not the jedi.

 

Actually no, Master Sifo-Dyas who was a jedi council member ordered the clone army before being murdered by Dooku.

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Everyone makes mistakes, but that doesn't mean everything on the site is wrong. It's still canon that it was Revan's plan.

 

I have sources stating that Surik created the trap to destroy the Mandalorians, the common belief is that Surik had no involvement whatsoever, hell even the timeline states it, but it doesn't mean it is right, Revan was duelling with Mandalore the entire time, busy learning about the Sith Lord that had betrayed Mandalore, Surik was the one that commanded the fleet and created the trap, what the hell Alek was doing I couldn't tell you, as he isn't even mentioned at all.

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I have sources stating that Surik created the trap to destroy the Mandalorians, the common belief is that Surik had no involvement whatsoever, hell even the timeline states it, but it doesn't mean it is right, Revan was duelling with Mandalore the entire time, busy learning about the Sith Lord that had betrayed Mandalore, Surik was the one that commanded the fleet and created the trap, what the hell Alek was doing I couldn't tell you, as he isn't even mentioned at all.

 

And where is that stated? And if it is somewhere then couldn't it mean that it's not right as well? It just feels like you want it to be all Meetra's plan to me and I'm sorry if this offends you since that wasn't my intent but it's just my opinion.

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And where is that stated? And if it is somewhere then couldn't it mean that it's not right as well? It just feels like you want it to be all Meetra's plan to me and I'm sorry if this offends you since that wasn't my intent but it's just my opinion.

 

In both KotOR II, Bao-Dur outright states that Meetra was the one who did the over-all battle, and in the KotOR Roleplaying game manual character sheets.

 

And no, I could care less really, Surik commanded the fleet and made the plan to use the MSG, Revan was busy boarding Mandalore's ship.

 

Also, KotOR II and the Roleplaying game are more reliable sources than a Timeline vid and Wooikeepedia, sorry to say.

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And as a matter of fact, the Revan novel does as well, it tells you right near the beginning that Revan was busy fighting Mandalore on Mandalore's bridge than over-seeing the battle and making plans on the fly.

 

That is basically a big plot point of why/how Revan goes and finds Dromund Kaas.

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In both KotOR II, Bao-Dur outright states that Meetra was the one who did the over-all battle, and in the KotOR Roleplaying game manual character sheets.

 

And no, I could care less really, Surik commanded the fleet and made the plan to use the MSG, Revan was busy boarding Mandalore's ship.

 

When did he say that? I thought all he said was she gave the order? The silent nod thing. Other then maybe the orders for battle strategies to fight off the Mandalorians until they were lured in. Which was stated to be Revan's plan.

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When did he say that? I thought all he said was she gave the order? The silent nod thing. Other then maybe the orders for battle strategies to fight off the Mandalorians until they were lured in. Which was stated to be Revan's plan.

 

He tells you a hell a lot if you bother to talk to him once you max out his influence.

 

He even tells you what he was doing at Malachor V at the time.

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My understanding is that.

 

Meetra was The General given the responsability of making the call(most trusted general)

 

Revans was to face mandalore so Meetra was to call the shots during the battle

 

Revans plan - Meetra made the call and executed the plan

 

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Meetras role is the loyal companion. It is not in her profile to plan the death of friendlies and enemies alike.

 

On the other hand it fits Revans profile

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He tells you a hell a lot if you bother to talk to him once you max out his influence.

 

He even tells you what he was doing at Malachor V at the time.

 

I talked to him quite a bit, made him a jedi even and I don't remember him saying "It was you it was all you" then again it was some time ago but then again sources say it was Revan and when it comes to Star Wars canon changes all the time.

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My understanding is that.

 

Meetra was The General given the responsability of making the call (most trusted general)

 

Revans plan - Meetra made the call to executed the order

 

But could you give me a source to state Malachor V was Revan's plan? besides Gnost-Dural who is incorrect on a number of things in the timeline videos.

 

My sources claim he was busy with taking down Mandalore.

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But could you give me a source to state Malachor V was Revan's plan? besides Gnost-Dural who is incorrect on a number of things in the timeline videos.

 

My sources claim he was busy with taking down Mandalore.

 

The Mass Shadow Generator was created by the Zabrak tech specialist Bao-Dur, under orders from the Jedi Knight Revan, in the year 3,960 BBY. The weapon was the centerpiece of a trap with which Revan hoped to bring about a conclusive end to the Mandalorian Wars. Overseeing the device's use was Jedi General Meetra Surik who would later come to be known as the Jedi Exile. Revan lured the Mandalorians to Malachor V, and a massive fleet battle ensued in orbit. During the fighting, Surik commanded Bao-Dur to activate the secret weapon with a single, silent nod. Moments later, a significant portion of both fleets were suddenly drawn from orbit into a vast gravity vortex that was powerful enough to crush the countless ships into the planet's crust and fracture Malachor V to its very core.[1]

 

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I talked to him quite a bit, made him a jedi even and I don't remember him saying "It was you it was all you" then again it was some time ago but then again sources say it was Revan and when it comes to Star Wars canon changes all the time.

 

Bao-Dur never states things so literally, he says a lot and most people never even listen to him because of his quiet mono-tone voice.

 

Again where are these sources? the timeline videos are wrong on many things.

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The Mass Shadow Generator was created by the Zabrak tech specialist Bao-Dur, under orders from the Jedi Knight Revan, in the year 3,960 BBY. The weapon was the centerpiece of a trap with which Revan hoped to bring about a conclusive end to the Mandalorian Wars. Overseeing the device's use was Jedi General Meetra Surik who would later come to be known as the Jedi Exile. Revan lured the Mandalorians to Malachor V, and a massive fleet battle ensued in orbit. During the fighting, Surik commanded Bao-Dur to activate the secret weapon with a single, silent nod. Moments later, a significant portion of both fleets were suddenly drawn from orbit into a vast gravity vortex that was powerful enough to crush the countless ships into the planet's crust and fracture Malachor V to its very core.[1]

 

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Again, that is Wookieepedia, and cannot be taken as a credible source, it is almost always written off of popular belief.

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Again, that is Wookieepedia, and cannot be taken as a credible source, it is almost always written off of popular belief.

 

Almost always? So not always? So that could mean that this particular info is right.

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But could you give me a source to state Malachor V was Revan's plan? besides Gnost-Dural who is incorrect on a number of things in the timeline videos.

 

My sources claim he was busy with taking down Mandalore.

 

Think about what we know of their characters.

 

When you think about the purpose of Revan and the exile, their core values, their role in the galaxy, Only one event makes sense.

 

Meetra is the redoubt and loyal warrior that can always be counted on.

 

It is not in her character to submit a plan for the mass extinction of both mandalorians and republic forces. This does not fit her character profile. Her character "would" however see through such a plan against personal misgivings, believing in the greater good. Such characters will always blame themselves. We see this when she returns to take responsability and accept judgement.

 

Revans purpose, does not concern the means. Revans character plays what ever role is needed to fulfil his greater purpose. This plan fits with Revans profile

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Almost always? So not always? So that could mean that this particular info is right.

 

Its usually a credible source by Lucasarts, BW, and authors. Theres some mistakes, but not EVERYTHING on there has mistakes to it but everything has mistakes nothing is perfect.

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If it has a proper source yes.

 

And who is to say that it isn't? Also I would be playing the hell out of mass effect 3 right now but I can't :( I'd like to continue later this is a nice debate I think were having.

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