raandomname Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 (edited) This is a concept Ive been muling over for quite some time and with Comquest on halt, the current Kaggath seing very limited activity and no Most Powerful thread being discussed at the moment, I though it may be a good time to get this started. Basically we will try to come uo with our own balanced and realistic stats for Star Wars ships that we have only limited information on, using our combined Star Wars knowledge and what limited information about said ship we have available. I hope that together we will gradually create a growing pool of information on these ships. You can bring up any ship you want and suggest stats for it, that will then be discussed and will enter the mini canon of this thread and added to the OP, when enough (4?) people approve of them. If Beni and/or Sil accept these stats, I also hope that the ships will then become available for use in the Kaggath and/or Conquest. So what are youre thoughts on this idea? Harrower-Class Dreadnought: Armament: 25 quad turbolasers and 18 light turbolasers Bellator-Class Dreadnought: Armament: 36 Octuple Barbette Turbolaser batteries, 140 Heavy Turbolaser Batteries, 60 Assault Concussion Missile launchers (30 Missiles each), 50 Point Defense Batteries, 40 NK-7 Ion Cannons, 20 Dual Proton Torpedo Launchers (26 Torpedos each), 15 Phylon Q-7 Tractor Beam Projectors, 2 Gravity Well Projectors Shields: 8 KDY Shield Generators Compliment: 560 fighters Edited April 27, 2015 by raandomname Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raandomname Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 (edited) So to actually put something out there for discussion: Glactic Class Fleet Carrier: Image: http://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/7/6478/Class_Star_Destroyer_Galaxy_by_ReonBlackScorpion.jpg Another image: http://www.moddb.com/mods/yuuzhan-vong-at-war/images/the-dodonna-broadside-beast Propsed Stats: Length: 1600 meters Armament: 40 turbolasers, 40 heavy turbolsers, 20 heavy ion canons, 8 ultra heavy turbolsers (comparable in firepower to the octupal turbolasers of an ISD 2 or the DBYs of a Venator) Shields: 80000 SBD Armor: 40000 RU Compliment: 156 starfighters Discuss! Edited April 28, 2015 by raandomname Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saremun Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Looks great, i really like it, you know what, the episode 7 might have similler ship since the "Empire" kinda in evolution right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 On the fighters I think you are a little low it is listed as having 1 bay= 4 and 1/2 squads or 54 fighters, and that it has "Several Hangar bays" so multiply that by 7. 54 x 7= 378 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raandomname Posted April 26, 2015 Author Share Posted April 26, 2015 On the fighters I think you are a little low it is listed as having 1 bay= 4 and 1/2 squads or 54 fighters, and that it has "Several Hangar bays" so multiply that by 7. 54 x 7= 378 Ok, but why does "several" equate to "seven" and not any other number? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raandomname Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 Added the Harrower- and Bellator-Class Dreadnought's armament to the OP for convenience, as they arent on Wookiee. Sel, can you post the Hammerhead-Class' armament please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Added the Harrower- and Bellator-Class Dreadnought's armament to the OP for convenience, as they arent on Wookiee. Sel, can you post the Hammerhead-Class' armament please? I don't actually have my sourcebooks on me at the moment, I'll have to find my stuff in old Kaggaths. Really like this idea though, I'd be happy to help out once I get them back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raandomname Posted April 27, 2015 Author Share Posted April 27, 2015 I don't actually have my sourcebooks on me at the moment, I'll have to find my stuff in old Kaggaths. Really like this idea though, I'd be happy to help out once I get them back. Cool. Thanks. Any thoughts on the Galactic-Class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Cool. Thanks. Any thoughts on the Galactic-Class? Not sure, what size were you thinking it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowMudkip Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 What type of ships are we wanting to catalog? Just ones with little info on them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Ok, but why does "several" equate to "seven" and not any other number? Because often times when people say things like "couple" it equates to 2, Several is one that more often equats with 7 more then anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarons Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 (edited) I have two ships that need more information on so what does everyone think the original Praetor-class battlecruiser and Mandator III-class Star Dreadnaught armaments could possible be? Edited April 28, 2015 by Jarons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyurii Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Because often times when people say things like "couple" it equates to 2, Several is one that more often equats with 7 more then anything else. Several does not equate with seven. Many people ignorantly assume it does because it has the same first three letters as seven - S E V. It's generally agreed to be more than 2 or 3, but no specific number. Few, several, many. All of them are ambiguous descriptions of amounts (a few people, several dogs, many cars etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raandomname Posted April 28, 2015 Author Share Posted April 28, 2015 Not sure, what size were you thinking it is? Oh yeah, completelly forgot including its size. Its basically the same size as an ISD, but higher and with a larger volume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raandomname Posted April 28, 2015 Author Share Posted April 28, 2015 What type of ships are we wanting to catalog? Just ones with little info on them? Yeah, thats the idea basically. Anthing with limited information, that is not on Wookiee or has stats that dont make sense like the armament of Liberator or Bulwark Mark III Cruisers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunewalker Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 (edited) Several does not equate with seven. Many people ignorantly assume it does because it has the same first three letters as seven - S E V. It's generally agreed to be more than 2 or 3, but no specific number. Few, several, many. All of them are ambiguous descriptions of amounts (a few people, several dogs, many cars etc.). This is correct, but CONSIDERING who these things were written by, Seven is usually a good guess as it was written by the average person that DOESNT know that. When trying to figure it out, you can use the often ignorance of the writer for an implied number in this case. Its the "Safe" bet. Edited April 28, 2015 by tunewalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowMudkip Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Yeah, thats the idea basically. Anthing with limited information, that is not on Wookiee or has stats that dont make sense like the armament of Liberator or Bulwark Mark III Cruisers. If its not too much work, starfighter carrying capabilities could also prove a useful tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raandomname Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 If its not too much work, starfighter carrying capabilities could also prove a useful tool. Ofc, when we are eventually done I want to have every relevant stat collected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raandomname Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 Any other thoughts on the Glactic or other stats suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raandomname Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 So...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raandomname Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 Everybody who is familiar with them will probably agree that the armaments given for the Liberator and Bulwark Mk III Cruiser in Star Wars Rebellion are way too large for their size. Id thus suggest just dividing the armament numbers by 3. Liberator Cruiser: - Current armament: 240 heavy turbolasers and 200 ion canons - Proposed armament: 80 heavy turbolasers and 60 ion canons Bulwark Mk III Cruiser: - Current armament: 1250 turbolasers and 600 ion canons - Proposed armament: 400 turbolasers and 200 ion canons I know that this is a direct contradiction to these ships' canon stats, but there is no debating that their current armaments are too large and imho it is a waste to ignore these two awesome ships just because we are unwilling to go against the sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raandomname Posted May 23, 2015 Author Share Posted May 23, 2015 Am I really the only one interested in this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Am I really the only one interested in this? It certainly interests me, but I do not have enough data to put forth suggestions for some of the vague ships. For example, the Harrower has often been compared in the Kaggath to a Victory class star destroyer in terms of firepower, though that is of course not 100% accurate. That said, I am curious as to other OR ship stats, such as for the Terminus-class destroyer or Gage-class transport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raandomname Posted May 24, 2015 Author Share Posted May 24, 2015 (edited) It certainly interests me, but I do not have enough data to put forth suggestions for some of the vague ships. For example, the Harrower has often been compared in the Kaggath to a Victory class star destroyer in terms of firepower, though that is of course not 100% accurate. That said, I am curious as to other OR ship stats, such as for the Terminus-class destroyer or Gage-class transport. Well thats the thing we dont have the data, but why should we not try and us our own imagination? If you have an idea, just throw it into this thread and then we can all discuss it together. Edited May 24, 2015 by raandomname Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Might as well suggest it here since I do not want to be the only one to think on it for Conquest: Ajuur class Cruiser Needs much more to go on, and so far it is the bulk of the Hutt's navy... Suffice to say, need to have some sort of agreement on its standard stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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